500g tank project middletown
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russellqueen
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Well I made it back from the trip north this past weekend. Came back with a pallet of sand (crushed coral) a 165 upright water container and about 400 lbs of live rock. Right now I am working on my setting up the sump downstairs, had to change bulkheads from 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 fittings for flow assurances. Hopefully I will get that tied up this weekend.
I got some quotes on the electrical work for running a 100 amp sub panel downstairs and it is in the $1000 price range, so not too wild about that, but I think in the long run it will pay off. This way I can run the two Sequence hammerheads on 220V and save some in the long run.
I will try to take some pictures of the sump, LR, and skimmer when I get it setup as well as the space where the new tank is going.
RUSS
I got some quotes on the electrical work for running a 100 amp sub panel downstairs and it is in the $1000 price range, so not too wild about that, but I think in the long run it will pay off. This way I can run the two Sequence hammerheads on 220V and save some in the long run.
I will try to take some pictures of the sump, LR, and skimmer when I get it setup as well as the space where the new tank is going.
RUSS
russellqueen
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Greg,
I sent you a PM
THX
I sent you a PM
THX
russellqueen
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I came home with about 250 lbs of premium fiji LR and about 150 lbs of tonga branch. He is able to get any of the major locations, and some probably obscure. Let me know what you are lookking for and I can always ask.
Russ
Russ
russellqueen
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Ok, here are some pictures of the sump setup downstairs.
russellqueen
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Here is where the new tank will be upstairs.
It will sit where the 90 G is now but will be 36 inches high on a stand. The canopy will be finished to the ceiling.
Do you guys think that that pillar is weight bearing????
It will sit where the 90 G is now but will be 36 inches high on a stand. The canopy will be finished to the ceiling.
Do you guys think that that pillar is weight bearing????
russellqueen
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Shnabbles,
Just give me some lead time on the live rock to make sure that he can get it in stock and the correct type.
Just give me some lead time on the live rock to make sure that he can get it in stock and the correct type.
kaptken
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Lots of progress on the basement sumps, Russ. wow, you cascaded them with the bottom drains. I guess thats ok if it's stable. I was thinking of 4 inch shower drain bulkheads going thru the top of the tub walls. and the tubs only about a foot higher than the next to cascade.
thats a pretty long floor span where the tank will go. it will sure make a nice room divider. but which way do the floor joists run? will the tank be in center joist or at the ends of them? is there enough support below to comfortably hold the 5000-5500 pounds of tank, water, sand and rock plus the floor load.? Chris should have some thoughts on that as he installed extra beams in the basement below the tank to support his built-in 180 gallon room divider.
now is the time to sort that out. Hmmm.. does that big steel beam in the basement run right under the tank? that would be good.
thats a pretty long floor span where the tank will go. it will sure make a nice room divider. but which way do the floor joists run? will the tank be in center joist or at the ends of them? is there enough support below to comfortably hold the 5000-5500 pounds of tank, water, sand and rock plus the floor load.? Chris should have some thoughts on that as he installed extra beams in the basement below the tank to support his built-in 180 gallon room divider.
now is the time to sort that out. Hmmm.. does that big steel beam in the basement run right under the tank? that would be good.
russellqueen
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mbbuna,
I thought that support may be load bearing, but think there is a steel or heavy wood beam in the middle of the plastic. I am planning to cut away the white column to be able to finish the smaller support in with the finished product.
As for the cinder blocks, I realize the increased load bearing of turning the blocks, but they were much less stable on end. I figure that they will be able to hold 130G of water no problem on their sides?? Thoughts.
Shnabbles,
All of the tubs will be for 'Tank overflow water' first going into the top then down and so-on. I am going to do a DSB in the middle one and a fuge somewhere, have not figured that one out yet. The fresh and new salt water will be in two large 165 gallon white tanks as seen in a picture that I will post later.
CASHCRZZY
I have two 12,000 lb steel support beams that I am going to put under the tank one on each side to cut the span to 8 ft instead of 16 feet. The floor beams run with the length of the tank.
Again, I will post some pictures with that visualized.
Thanks for the imput.
RUSS
I thought that support may be load bearing, but think there is a steel or heavy wood beam in the middle of the plastic. I am planning to cut away the white column to be able to finish the smaller support in with the finished product.
As for the cinder blocks, I realize the increased load bearing of turning the blocks, but they were much less stable on end. I figure that they will be able to hold 130G of water no problem on their sides?? Thoughts.
Shnabbles,
All of the tubs will be for 'Tank overflow water' first going into the top then down and so-on. I am going to do a DSB in the middle one and a fuge somewhere, have not figured that one out yet. The fresh and new salt water will be in two large 165 gallon white tanks as seen in a picture that I will post later.
CASHCRZZY
I have two 12,000 lb steel support beams that I am going to put under the tank one on each side to cut the span to 8 ft instead of 16 feet. The floor beams run with the length of the tank.
Again, I will post some pictures with that visualized.
Thanks for the imput.
RUSS
russellqueen
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here is a picture of one of the water tanks. the trash can for size.
russellqueen
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my mistake on my wording. We meant the same thing. For whatever reason the blocks were much more wobbly when the holes were up. I do not want to fill them with concrete nor did I want to use mortar, so I decided to go that way.
Do you agree that the blocks will support 130 gallons as they are situated, or should I change them and use mortar??
Thanks
RUSS
Do you agree that the blocks will support 130 gallons as they are situated, or should I change them and use mortar??
Thanks
RUSS
kaptken
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1100-1200 pounds of water per tub comes to 300 pounds per stack of block. that's about one eagles line backer standing on each stack. I think they can hold that. Just as long as that top tub is stable and not tippy way up there. the way you angled the stacks a little helps stability but the tubs slope outward and have weight outside the perimeter of the blocks. that makes it a little more tippy on the tall stack.
kaptken
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snabbles, go back to some of logandsdaddy's threads on the system he is setting up. he has a gravity feed rack of barrels for makeup and water change mix water. I don't know if he is done yet. i think he got temporarily delayed with work and stuff. but it was going to save him some pumping and floor space. nice idea.
yup, salt water is heavy. 8.56 pounds per gallon. boy, i wish i had a basement for a sump room or tank room. all my stuff is in the dining room and kitchen. If i didnt have so many shade trees in the yard i would be temped to build a green house like Doctor Macs. only smaller. It will have to wait for the next house. I wasn't even thinking about tanks yet when i bought this rancher. next one will be better.
yup, salt water is heavy. 8.56 pounds per gallon. boy, i wish i had a basement for a sump room or tank room. all my stuff is in the dining room and kitchen. If i didnt have so many shade trees in the yard i would be temped to build a green house like Doctor Macs. only smaller. It will have to wait for the next house. I wasn't even thinking about tanks yet when i bought this rancher. next one will be better.
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