600 gal display/900+ gal build thread in the Chicago 'burbs.

Thanks Mcliffy2. I've added more peps along with 2 emeralds more cleaners, a diamond gob and a royal gramma. (not sure if i mentioned this) Anyways SOMETHING I added is eating aptasia! I still have it in my fuge and every now and then I see one in my dispaly, but I've stopped injecting them and they seem to be under control. I've seen the gob scoop up sand with small aptasia so I'm thinking hes getting the ones on the sand which were the biggest pita. I'm betting the peps or emerlds are eating the ones in the rocks.

I have m first coral mounted that I saved from Miztic's tank crash. 3 of the other 6 are starting to color up and will be mounted soon if the color all the way.

I need to make some time to head over your way and take a look at your tank if the offer still stands.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15102684#post15102684 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
wmilas - Pat (newschool04) has an aptasia-eating copperband that wiped out all of his aptasia (and he had a lot), and he is now looking for a new home for it. He is local here in chicago, so you might contact him.

This is a good idea. These fish need a LOT of rock to forage when they run out of aptasia. One thing I did in my system was to filter all overflow water 100% through filter floss, and allow aptasia to grow in my shallow overflow. Then I would put a small rock in there so they would attach, and then toss it into the display so the CBB could have some.

Obviously, you ONLY want to do this with 100% mechanical filtration so they don't get into the sump and other equipment, or populate the display. It worked well for me. BTW, CBBs are not very bright. In fact one of the most stupid fish I have cared for. And even though I fed very high quality DIY food, I never saw one it it.
 
WMILAS your set-up is sweet.....so how are the micro bubbles going?......oh and dude that fuge needs a makeover first cut down on the cheato (first of all it only de-nitrifys if you prune it not let it grow into a basketball size lump!}.....

......if it was mine i would cut back on the cheato add some diff kinds of macro esp some red colored macro and add a angler or really cool rhinopias {sp}, they both will fit in the 65 and then you'll have a "DISPLAY FUGE"
 
Well, I do want to add some more macro's to the fuge. I'll do that when I get a chance. And as far as removing the cheato, I do. I take out a 5 gallon bucket of it damn near every other week :)

As far as teh fish goes, I'm saving it for something special. I'm not quite sure what that is yet, but I'll see :)
 
Something interesting to report. For the last month or so I've had a red cynobacteria growth (or so I thought) on only the black side and back of my tank. It was ONLY growing over the established coraline. It was not growing on the sand, or on the rocks at all. It grew in small circles that slowly spread into a larger mat. Some of the mats were maybe 2 feet by 2 feet.

Two weeks ago I got serious and started to scrape it off. To my surprise, it was thicker than cyno, slightly spongy, and tough as hell to get off. It adhered itself to the coraline underneath and wouldn't come off unless the coraline came off. I thought this odd.

Shortly thereafter I had miztic over and showed him the funny red round growths in my sump.. when you scraped them they were BLOOD red. No actual blood, just red. I remarked how I had what he though some funky low light sponge growth in my sump. Cool I thought.

As I was scraping away mightily the other day and watching this red stuff come off and not disintegrate like cyno would but instead it was more like a gritty mass like an old sponge that disintegrates I thought back to what miztic said. I thought no way.

However after talking it over with him again and going home and feeling it with my finger, I have, what I think to be, a MASSIVE growth of red encrusting sponge. What makes it even more solid of a case is that I had very little growth of it until I started dosing vodka. I'm actually dosing vodka/sugar/vinegar mixture. Anyways, I'm convinced that the added bacterial mass is being fed on by the sponge... its a filter feeder after all. I've seen a drop off of black nasty bacterial skimmate over the last month even though I'm dosing slightly more carbon. I'm dosing a "small" maintenance amount of 3ml for my 1000 gallon system. I know it seems small, but thats all I need to keep everything balanced.

Anyways, I think this is generally very odd. I still can't convince myself that its a sponge, but it sure as hell isn't cyano. Its not slimy, its firm, and the mat, if left alone, gets thicker.. like maybe almost half an inch before I scraped it.It would probably keep growing.. who knows. It doesn't grow nearly that big or in a mat in my sump, but it is competing with my massive skimmer in my sump.

So what do you guys think? If you want pictures I can take them, but I'm not sure how to take them. IT "looks" like really dark cyano and unless you feel it, you might say its cyano.
 
Then it's all good as it's a kind of carolline algae and not a cyano and this reef cement will help hold your rocks together :lol:
 
Its a bit thicker though. I'll try and get some pictures of it today. I have an Emperor Angel, bubble tip, linkia star and a few other goodies coming today.

Oh also I had one of my GFCI breakers go bad yesterday. I couldn't believe it was the breaker, but it was. It would trip under heavier load when an electronic balance was plugged into it. New breaker, everything is fine again.... and I managed to do it in a live box without killing myself :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15102823#post15102823 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wmilas
Thanks Mcliffy2. I've added more peps along with 2 emeralds more cleaners, a diamond gob and a royal gramma. (not sure if i mentioned this) Anyways SOMETHING I added is eating aptasia! I still have it in my fuge and every now and then I see one in my dispaly, but I've stopped injecting them and they seem to be under control. I've seen the gob scoop up sand with small aptasia so I'm thinking hes getting the ones on the sand which were the biggest pita. I'm betting the peps or emerlds are eating the ones in the rocks.

I have m first coral mounted that I saved from Miztic's tank crash. 3 of the other 6 are starting to color up and will be mounted soon if the color all the way.

I need to make some time to head over your way and take a look at your tank if the offer still stands.

The offer still stands whenever you like. Just let me know.

Re: The maintenance dosing of VSV - I have been doing this as well, and believe it allows me to go with no phosphate reactor. I think that light carbon dosing as a maintenance regimen to control phosphates/nitrates, but not necessarily to achieve an ULNS, will become more popular. I actually know of one person using it with success to control nitrates in a FOWLR.
 
I haven't changed the media in my phosphate reactor in 2 months now. Actually maybe closer to 3. I just tested the effluent from it and its still testing 0.01 ppm which is within the margin of error for 0.00.

Either the carbon is completely eliminating the free phosphate or there is so little its taking forever to exhaust the GFO.
 
Oh also the Emperator Angel went in today, along with the bubble tip and the starfish. the angel is swimming around happily, the bubble tip made a beeline for the EXACT opposite corner of the tank I want him in, and the starfish crawled into the rocks and hid :P
 
wmilas - if you are running VSV, or any type of carbon dosing, its generally not a good idea to run a phosphate reactor. Some do it, but they generally test phosphates frequently and only put it online when they see phosphates rise. You can drop phosphates to a dangerously low level and corals will start to RTN/STN if you aren't careful running carbon dosing and a phos reactor.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15127600#post15127600 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wmilas
Oh also the Emperator Angel went in today, along with the bubble tip and the starfish. the angel is swimming around happily, the bubble tip made a beeline for the EXACT opposite corner of the tank I want him in, and the starfish crawled into the rocks and hid :P

Fish are like puppies, always wagging their tails & happy to see you.

Inverts are spinless ungrateful little basteges sometimes!

:D
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15128064#post15128064 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mcliffy2
wmilas - if you are running VSV, or any type of carbon dosing, its generally not a good idea to run a phosphate reactor. Some do it, but they generally test phosphates frequently and only put it online when they see phosphates rise. You can drop phosphates to a dangerously low level and corals will start to RTN/STN if you aren't careful running carbon dosing and a phos reactor.

Yea, I've read this. Current tank water is 0.02 to 0.03 ppm phosphate, out of the reactor is 0.01. I was going to wait for the reactor to exhaust itself then maybe step up the carbon a wee bit to keep the phosphate in check. I'm testing once a week.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15128656#post15128656 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Bax
Fish are like puppies, always wagging their tails & happy to see you.

Inverts are spinless ungrateful little basteges sometimes!

:D

Isn't that the truth :(
 
Picture time.

Full tank shot:
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Middle:
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Pictures of the weird red stuff. I have the blue lights on atm so it looks more brown than red... trust me, its blood red.

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Extreme close up (sorry no tripod :( )
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