Amazing, all this drama over a few brown polyps...
$600 Per Polyp?!?!?
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ficklefins
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Forget the zoas, are you going to share the cake?
Serioussnaps
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Well while everyone jabbers on about this i have seen a rock of those very zoa's for sale at a LFS about a year ago for 60 bucks on a rock with like 15 polyps......
and yes it was them.....whatever if you want to pay 6 million for a polyp that is your business
and yes it was them.....whatever if you want to pay 6 million for a polyp that is your business
Neptune777
Premium Member
I have some wicked cool zoas I should sell to some sap for like $800 a polyp.....I call them deep orange people eaters= D.O.P.E's
Seriously, how can someone feel good about themselves when they take advantage of some mis-informed newbee who has $600 burning a hole in their pocket. I wouldn't.....
IMO they are nothing to get excited about anyway.......kinda drab.
Seriously, how can someone feel good about themselves when they take advantage of some mis-informed newbee who has $600 burning a hole in their pocket. I wouldn't.....
IMO they are nothing to get excited about anyway.......kinda drab.
what drives prices up is people selling low and then start selling them a little higher each time. dealer1 sells for 10$ a polyp and dealer2 sells for 15$ a polyp. everyone buy from #1 untill his supply runs out then goes to dealer#2. dealer#1 get a shipment in and sees they are going for 15 a polyp and charges the same or a little more. this will continue until it reaches a rediculus price so that few people can afford it.
jay24k
Active member
A wholesaler really doesn't do that unless it is a HUGE fad. This case isn't for that though. This is just a person who has another color type of zoo that few have. He then thinks he can rip people off to make a buck because he has nothing to lose. If it doesn't sell, fine, he will grow it. If some sucker pays for it (and trust me, I'm sure he is saying, "AHA! Another sucker LOL") then, bonus for him.
There are PLENTY of morphs out there that very few people have.
There are PLENTY of morphs out there that very few people have.
Some very good reading here. It all began in 2005. Scroll back to page 1 and try to keep your jaw from dropping.
Mucho Reef
Mucho Reef
FYI, this was just months after people starting naming them and the prices went sky high. Prices have remained high for 6 years. The title of this thread alone will cause most people to read it. That's why I'm reviving it.
Related discussion going on here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1888199
Related discussion going on here http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1888199
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Reef Junkie
Premium Member
I see we're resurecting the dead.
Here is a blerb from Dr. Cialdini on naming products. This is proven science.
Confusing names are more appealing
Researchers found that consumers found colors and flavors more appealing when they were puzzling, e.g., "Kermit green" rather than "green" or "millenium orange" rather than "orange". In trying to figure out what the name meant, consumers were apparently prompted to think of positive aspects of the product. If they solved a mini-puzzle by figuring out the meaning of a name they ended up with positive associations. We could potentially use this in our business, e.g., renaming the Boston Helicopter Tour the "Revere Ride Reverse" (we go into Boston by reversing the route that Paul Revere took in 1775). I'm not sure how to rename a one-hour flight lesson.
Robert B. Cialdini is Regents’ Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Marketing at Arizona State University.
He is best known for his popular book on persuasion and marketing, Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. Influence has sold over 2 million copies and has been translated into twenty-six languages. It has been listed on the New York Times Business Best Seller List. Fortune Magazine lists Influence in their "75 Smartest Business Books."
Here is a blerb from Dr. Cialdini on naming products. This is proven science.
Confusing names are more appealing
Researchers found that consumers found colors and flavors more appealing when they were puzzling, e.g., "Kermit green" rather than "green" or "millenium orange" rather than "orange". In trying to figure out what the name meant, consumers were apparently prompted to think of positive aspects of the product. If they solved a mini-puzzle by figuring out the meaning of a name they ended up with positive associations. We could potentially use this in our business, e.g., renaming the Boston Helicopter Tour the "Revere Ride Reverse" (we go into Boston by reversing the route that Paul Revere took in 1775). I'm not sure how to rename a one-hour flight lesson.
Robert B. Cialdini is Regents’ Professor Emeritus of Psychology and Marketing at Arizona State University.
He is best known for his popular book on persuasion and marketing, Influence: The Psychology of Persuasion. Influence has sold over 2 million copies and has been translated into twenty-six languages. It has been listed on the New York Times Business Best Seller List. Fortune Magazine lists Influence in their "75 Smartest Business Books."
There was once a $ 900 polyp years ago.
DanRhomberg
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I ran RV dealerships here in Soutnern CA for ten years. Car dealers have the same sort of training as well. The phycology of the sale is the same here and if you dont know any better, you'll get hit everytime.
"Sales 101"-- Create the desire for a gain and the fear of a loss.
It's everywhere you look today. All you have to do is open your eyes and see it.
It all starts with an emotional attachment to something....
i.e...... A Car lot,
:jester:Salesman__"so I see you really like this 2010 Chrystler C300.Right?
:bigeyes:customer___"yes"
:jester:salesman___"I love this ride as well. The only problem is we only have one in this interior color you like and as you see you like it, so does everyone else." As a matter of fact, some of the other stores have been calling to see if we have this color sold yet."(FEAR OF A LOSS) "So let me ask you this, If I can get them to lock it up for you before the other stores do for someone else with a minium deposit and in a payment you like, Will you do it right now?(DESIRE FOR A GAIN)
:bigeyes:customer___Normal answer..."yes"
Here the only differance is.... Limited edition!!/ Rare breed / $295 pp... I only have 6 frags. Act fast/ first come first served.....
Another differance here is the emotional attachment already exist here and they dont need to create it.
Same thing, different industry....:lol:
"Sales 101"-- Create the desire for a gain and the fear of a loss.
It's everywhere you look today. All you have to do is open your eyes and see it.
It all starts with an emotional attachment to something....
i.e...... A Car lot,
:jester:Salesman__"so I see you really like this 2010 Chrystler C300.Right?
:bigeyes:customer___"yes"
:jester:salesman___"I love this ride as well. The only problem is we only have one in this interior color you like and as you see you like it, so does everyone else." As a matter of fact, some of the other stores have been calling to see if we have this color sold yet."(FEAR OF A LOSS) "So let me ask you this, If I can get them to lock it up for you before the other stores do for someone else with a minium deposit and in a payment you like, Will you do it right now?(DESIRE FOR A GAIN)
:bigeyes:customer___Normal answer..."yes"
Here the only differance is.... Limited edition!!/ Rare breed / $295 pp... I only have 6 frags. Act fast/ first come first served.....
Another differance here is the emotional attachment already exist here and they dont need to create it.
Same thing, different industry....:lol:
Amen brother. That was some good stuff you posted. I hope it is well received.
Check this out. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1139727
Check this out. http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1139727
...and yet another. But you gotta read it all the way through for the surprise at the end.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1361482
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1361482
Reef Junkie
Premium Member
My god, I remember when EO came out. Everyone wanted a piece,but as it turned out, it was just another morph of a paly.
Mucho, we agree that the naming of these corals has taken them to another dimension... What do we zoas enthusiasts do to reverse this trend?
Mucho, we agree that the naming of these corals has taken them to another dimension... What do we zoas enthusiasts do to reverse this trend?
wickedfish
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Anyone who pays over $60 for any polyp must be taking 24k dumps and should invite me over to wipe the gold dust off their bums. j/k but reality check i
noobtothereef
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the only thing you can do is not buy them, if theres no market for them then everybody and there sister wont be setting up frag tanks the size of there 2 car garage and prop'n them and selling them.... the majority of people now days setup a tank....and then 4 months later they are fraggin for business....its no longer a hobby anymore but a business..... I posted wtb thread on my local site for some zoa's and said i had some to trade, you wouldnt believe how many pm's i got saying...i got these and those for $20pp....$50 for 3 polyps...... small colony $200......people are even prop'n basic pos zoa's, renaming them, and selling them by the polyp now lol....how dumb... people forget that the palythoas and zoanthids are the most common found coral on the planet!! They are EVERYWHERE!!
Another thing i find funny is that alot of these really expensive zoa's grow slower than dirt and are so small you can barely see them, i mean come on do you guys have binoculars and magnifying glasses hanging on your tank like the cutters that are tethered to the wall next to the hose real at the hardware store so your houseguests can actually see them??
