Billybeau1
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There are a number of salts that leave that residue in the mixing tank. I has not seem to affected anyone in a negative way that I've heard. 
A General Guide to Salt Mixes
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Aquarist007
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15373511#post15373511 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
There are a number of salts that leave that residue in the mixing tank. I has not seem to affected anyone in a negative way that I've heard.
do you know why this is happening Billybeau?
Anyone bought Oceanpure recently? I just found our local dog supply store carries this. because I bought all my dog food and supplies from this store to support it. The owner gave me 50G bag to test. I never heard about this salt before until I read this thread, it is not a bad salt at all. but have a little concern about the stability between the batches.
Billybeau1
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I found Oceanpure to mix pretty good and have good numbers.
I see no reason not to use it.
Capn, I do not know what is in the salts that cause the residue reefers are seeing in their mixing buckets. What ever it is, it does not seem to affect the salt mix itself. Just a little extra clean up for the user every now and then.
If it was just one salt mix, I would be concerned, but there seems to be a number of them that produce this reside. I would not be concerned.
I see no reason not to use it.
Capn, I do not know what is in the salts that cause the residue reefers are seeing in their mixing buckets. What ever it is, it does not seem to affect the salt mix itself. Just a little extra clean up for the user every now and then.
If it was just one salt mix, I would be concerned, but there seems to be a number of them that produce this reside. I would not be concerned.
Billy,
It took me three days, but I managed to read through all threads! Thanks for all the work you've put into this thread!
I'm starting a tank from the beginning and I envision a mixed but predominantly SPS tank with a heavy bio-load of fish eventually. The tank will be a 120g w/50g sump. If I plan to do top off w/Kalk and do small daily water changes with a Spectrapure Litermeter III dosing pump, do you feel that I can use Coralife salt without overdosing with calcium while I'm getting things established? I know that Kalkwasser will help with increasing alkalinity, but I wasn't sure if the additional calcium will cause precipitation in the tank. Is it better to use 50-50 Coralife with Reef Crystals?
Thanks
It took me three days, but I managed to read through all threads! Thanks for all the work you've put into this thread!
I'm starting a tank from the beginning and I envision a mixed but predominantly SPS tank with a heavy bio-load of fish eventually. The tank will be a 120g w/50g sump. If I plan to do top off w/Kalk and do small daily water changes with a Spectrapure Litermeter III dosing pump, do you feel that I can use Coralife salt without overdosing with calcium while I'm getting things established? I know that Kalkwasser will help with increasing alkalinity, but I wasn't sure if the additional calcium will cause precipitation in the tank. Is it better to use 50-50 Coralife with Reef Crystals?
Thanks
kfick
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Are you sure about this? Salinity is the 'saltiness' of disolved salts in water. CaCl and MgCl are both salts. Maybe its not to the degree which will throw off the salinity a lot, but it certainly should raise it. I would think if you mix to 35ppt and then dose up the calcium and mag, like say in Instant Ocean, your saility would be a tad higher. I re-adjust with more RO water to bring the salinty back down after I have boosted a fresh batch of water.
Billybeau1
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You can go either way IMO. The extra calcium in Coralife does not seem to be a problem for most. The 50/50 idea will, however help you in the alk dept. as RC has a bunch.
I think at this point, it is up to you.
I see Jonathan is back. I'm going to work.
nirvanaandtool
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Did Oceanic's salt formula change by any chance? Or is it still just as bad as it was when the first test was done.
Cause I have a 200g bucket of it that I picked up from the LFS without thinking last week. Didnt open it but was intending on using it for my Solana when i pick it up this week. Figured it was good cause my brother is using it on his 90g mixed reef with pretty good success but those levels just scare me. Dont really want to risk starting a tank with it if its that bad of a salt mix. What do you guys think?
Guess I can try to return it for IO instead...
Cause I have a 200g bucket of it that I picked up from the LFS without thinking last week. Didnt open it but was intending on using it for my Solana when i pick it up this week. Figured it was good cause my brother is using it on his 90g mixed reef with pretty good success but those levels just scare me. Dont really want to risk starting a tank with it if its that bad of a salt mix. What do you guys think?
Guess I can try to return it for IO instead...
kfick
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So if we dose 20 gallons of mixed up IO from 1050 to 1350 ppm of Magnesium with Randy's 2 part formula, it will take 483ml according to JDieck's calculator. At 3785ml in a gallon, that will take roughly 1/8th of a gallon. There are 5 cups of salts in the gallon of mix (3 MgCl and 2 of MgS04), so that mean we dosed aproximately 5/8ths of a cup of salt. I'd think that would be a noticeable difference in salinity. And then I add 100ppm of calcium...
Billybeau1
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I do not think Oceanic is bad. Just unbalanced. The extra calcium is nothing to be afraid of. Nor is the extra magnesium. Most reefers wish they had that much out of the box. You just have to keep an eye on alkalinity which is easily fixed with baking soda.
I haven't tested Oceanic in awhile, but that said, I have not heard of their formula changing either. If it is good enough for your bro, I'd say it is good enough for you.
Billybeau1
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Well, I'll tell you what Kurt. Mix up a batch of IO @ 1.026 . Add your supps and test s.g. again and tell us what you get.
I think you will be surprised. I hope you have a refractometer.
I think you will be surprised. I hope you have a refractometer.
kfick
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I checked on 30 gallons of IO last night. I only dosed 280ml of Mag and 300ml of Ca since newer IO buckets appear to be reading a bit higher on Mag these days. I calibrated my refract to 35ppt with Pinpoint's solution.
The salinity was probably about 0.5 - 0.75 ppt higher, but definately a readable difference. Those little bars are so close together, its hard for me to tell. I normally just shoot for 35ppt since it's a big line
It would be interesting to see what other people measure when they do the same.
The salinity was probably about 0.5 - 0.75 ppt higher, but definately a readable difference. Those little bars are so close together, its hard for me to tell. I normally just shoot for 35ppt since it's a big line
It would be interesting to see what other people measure when they do the same.
nirvanaandtool
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15388530#post15388530 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
I do not think Oceanic is bad. Just unbalanced. The extra calcium is nothing to be afraid of. Nor is the extra magnesium. Most reefers wish they had that much out of the box. You just have to keep an eye on alkalinity which is easily fixed with baking soda.
I haven't tested Oceanic in awhile, but that said, I have not heard of their formula changing either. If it is good enough for your bro, I'd say it is good enough for you.
Ok well that's good news. The specs for it just kind of freaked me out.
I'll give it a shot and see how it goes. Thanks for the advice and help.
Anyone have a change to verify Alk, Ca and Mag on this one:
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...=PROD&Product_Code=SALT-BW-150&Category_Code=
Here is a more interesting link:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1675403
http://www.premiumaquatics.com/Merc...=PROD&Product_Code=SALT-BW-150&Category_Code=
Here is a more interesting link:
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1675403
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Huhhhhh
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Kent Salt questions
Kent Salt questions
Who is making Salt for Kent now a days. I remember Oceanic doing it in the past but someone mentioned the other day their not doing it for them anymore.
I also stopped using it when they had an Alk problem a year or two ago.
Have they fixed that problem yet?
I'd like to start using it again.
Kent Salt questions
Who is making Salt for Kent now a days. I remember Oceanic doing it in the past but someone mentioned the other day their not doing it for them anymore.
I also stopped using it when they had an Alk problem a year or two ago.
Have they fixed that problem yet?
I'd like to start using it again.
