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D-D H2Ocean - Vitamins Question

D-D H2Ocean - Vitamins Question

Awhile back someone posted asking if there were vitamins added to D-D H2 Ocean salt. Here is the response I received directly from D-D regarding this question:

H2Ocean like any other premium salt does not contain any vitamins since it doesn’t contain any organic material.

Furthermore, most vitamins should be dissolved in some kind of emulsifiers or oils in order to be available for the animals to use and others should not be allowed to be exposed to light in order to be active.

Therefore there shouldn’t be any reason to put any vitamins nor amino acids in the salt.

End Quote

HTH those who were wondering.
 
Oceanic Salt

Oceanic Salt

I need some help trying to Stabilize my Oceanic Salt Mix down to recommended levels? I am trying to get my levels down? Right now they are as follows Calcium 580, Mag- 1600, and my Alk is low like always around 5-7. PH around 7.8 to 8.0. You think if I add a buffer that would raise my PH and ALK would that help lower my Cal and Mag readings?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks :)
 
Re: Oceanic Salt

Re: Oceanic Salt

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14976549#post14976549 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tank2379
I need some help trying to Stabilize my Oceanic Salt Mix down to recommended levels? I am trying to get my levels down? Right now they are as follows Calcium 580, Mag- 1600, and my Alk is low like always around 5-7. PH around 7.8 to 8.0. You think if I add a buffer that would raise my PH and ALK would that help lower my Cal and Mag readings?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks :)
FWIW, I would use up what I had and consider switching to another salt. For some reason, their alkalinity is always on the low side relative to their calcium levels. There are many good options, I have switched to D-D H2Ocean. If I had a larger system, I might not be able to justify the extra cost but I can manage it on my current system. Don't add more MG, you're really high already if your test kit is correct. Personally, I wouldn't add anything for several days and then I would take new tests to compare and go from there. Good luck.
 
There is nothing wrong with your calcium and magnesium being that high. A little baking soda will keep your alk up.

That said, if your tank does not consume a lot of calcium, than switching to a salt mix lower in Calcium will probably save you some maintenance time cleaning pumps and such. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14979492#post14979492 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Billybeau1
There is nothing wrong with your calcium and magnesium being that high. A little baking soda will keep your alk up.
This comment implies that I suggested they are TOO HIGH, I never said that. I DID say, don't add more MG in the form of any supplements as 1600 ppm is high and adding any more will be a waste of money until it comes down to a more reasonable figure (e.g. one a tad closer to natural seawater). If you want to get your ph a bit higher as you are running on the lower end of what would be considered acceptable for a reef tank, baked baking soda might be a better alternative to baking soda. IMHO, you should have a way to monitor pH when adding various supplements for alkalinity so you can see the impact on pH. Read Randy Holmes-Farley if you want sound advice on the chemistry aspects of reef husbandry.

Also, while I have no other source to validate this statement, I have read in the printed instructions of the Tropic Marin Combitest for Ca & MG, that very high MG (they don't provide a figure for what they consider high) can make maintaining higher alkalinity a challenge. Anyone using this kit can read the statement for themselves. I had never heard this before and have an inquiry in to Randy to see what his thought are on it in another thread. I may need to bump that post as I believe he was out for awhile and I have not checked to see if he is back and posting again.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14979997#post14979997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmsalt1
This comment implies that I suggested they are TOO HIGH, I never said that. I DID say, don't add more MG in the form of any supplements as 1600 ppm is high and adding any more will be a waste of money until it comes down to a more reasonable figure (e.g. one a tad closer to natural seawater). If you want to get your ph a bit higher as you are running on the lower end of what would be considered acceptable for a reef tank, baked baking soda might be a better alternative to baking soda. IMHO, you should have a way to monitor pH when adding various supplements for alkalinity so you can see the impact on pH. Read Randy Holmes-Farley if you want sound advice on the chemistry aspects of reef husbandry.

Also, while I have no other source to validate this statement, I have read in the printed instructions of the Tropic Marin Combitest for Ca & MG, that very high MG (they don't provide a figure for what they consider high) can make maintaining higher alkalinity a challenge. Anyone using this kit can read the statement for themselves. I had never heard this before and have an inquiry in to Randy to see what his thought are on it in another thread. I may need to bump that post as I believe he was out for awhile and I have not checked to see if he is back and posting again.

I'd keep the mag at 1400 alot of reefers are reporting thay there corals appear to be doing better with that level .
 
Re: D-D H2Ocean - Vitamins Question

Re: D-D H2Ocean - Vitamins Question

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14931880#post14931880 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmsalt1
Awhile back someone posted asking if there were vitamins added to D-D H2 Ocean salt. Here is the response I received directly from D-D regarding this question:

H2Ocean like any other premium salt does not contain any vitamins since it doesn’t contain any organic material.

Furthermore, most vitamins should be dissolved in some kind of emulsifiers or oils in order to be available for the animals to use and others should not be allowed to be exposed to light in order to be active.

Therefore there shouldn’t be any reason to put any vitamins nor amino acids in the salt.

End Quote

HTH those who were wondering.

thanks for your research on this misconception:cool:
 
My corals are doing fine with Mag being at 1600 my concern is the high Cal being at 580 especially I don't have a high demand in SPS corals I just want to get it stabilized so when I do a water change it dose not go back up. Maybe I should add more SPS?
 
IMO as long as you are running the mag that high you don't have to worry about any precipitation from the high level of calcium. If you are not having to dose anything to keep it up there you are lucky :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=14979997#post14979997 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmsalt1
This comment implies that I suggested they are TOO HIGH, I never said that.

My comment had nothing to do with any statement you made. Sorry if you read it that way. :)

And no, Randy is still out. When he comes back, you will know it. :D
 
Billyb,

We're good. Sometimes things get lost on a board vs. in person.:D I hope Randy is well as I don't know the circumstances under which he has been away from the board. His advice has been greatly appreciated over the years.

Jeff
 
He gets busy from time to time with his real job and likes to take vacations.

I'm sure he is fine. He'll pop up sooner or later. :)

We do miss him when he is gone, but he has a life too. :D
 
I'm looking into buying some new salt and I'm wondering which one I should go with between these 2. Either reef crystals or seachem reef salt. Thanks.
 
Aquacave?

Aquacave?

Does anyone use these guys? I imagine any savings on shipping would be offset by paying state sales tax on dry goods. I called and left a message a couple weeks ago to find out what their deal is, online only or open for retail also type inquiry. Never got a return phone call. Either way, bad business not to return phone calls as it makes one question the service or lack thereof .....especially bad business in this economy.
 
Re: Sorry.

Re: Sorry.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15014046#post15014046 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jmsalt1
Meant to post this in another thread. Mod, please feel free to delete the post. Thanks.

there is a link on the right side of your post that reports the post to a moderator;)
 
Looking for a good deal on Reef Crystals from a online etailer. Whos the best bet for the buck? 160 gallon bucket O salt is what Im after.

Thanks
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15013713#post15013713 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rs1831
I'm looking into buying some new salt and I'm wondering which one I should go with between these 2. Either reef crystals or seachem reef salt. Thanks.

It depends on a number of things. Your water change schedule and how heavily stock your tank is, and your supplement regime.

I would try one for a few months then try the other. :)
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15014306#post15014306 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vanman
Looking for a good deal on Reef Crystals from a online etailer. Whos the best bet for the buck? 160 gallon bucket O salt is what Im after.

Thanks

You may want to check out Drs Foster & Smith. They run good deals from time to time on RC. Make sure to check out shipping costs. :)
 
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