A Reef Tank in the Desert - +/- 1,400 gallon system

You know Dan, if you're getting mileage points from your AMEX card you will probably be the first guy whose fish tank actually sends him to see where all his pretty fish come from.

Let me know if you want to use the mileage for Bali, Micronesia or Thailand... I'm due for a dive trip !!!

Dave B

How about Reef Central and MACNA sponsoring a cruise and dive trip?
 
I see FedEx Friday came a day early this week and from the looks of it, it was a good thing because you are going to need an extra day to unpack everything.

It took all of Thursday, Friday and today Steve.

There was supposed to be one package on FedEx Friday from Vivid Aquariums. They had a real nice neon carpet anemone that I ordered along with a few coral beauty's and bangai cardinals.

Unfortunately, the package went from Canoga Park, CA and got stuck in Memphis, Tennessee. It finally made it to Tucson this afternoon. I went down to the Federal Express shipment facility here to pick it up hoping everything survived. Unfortunately, the only survivor appears to be a small coral beauty and it is questionable.

This is my first online order that didn't arrive as scheduled. Vivid has a great warranty policy, however, the loss is a tragedy.
 
It never occurred to me about having a propane generator for the house. I think our propane tank is 1,400 or 2,000 gallons. It's huge. It runs our stoves, water heaters and furnaces during the winter. Summertime, when we have our monsoon storms, we use very little propane. I definitely have to check into a propane generator. Thank you!!!!

With regards to the float switches... I bought them from BRS. They are manufactured for Digital Aquatics. I will be cutting off the ends and connecting them to the break out box on my Apex unit.

look into Generac with an auto switch. If power is out for 30 seconds. Generator kicks on. Mine is on natural gas. Will run most of my house including central air.
It sucks the gas though.
 
Some fishes in the QT's....

Some fishes in the QT's....

So these aren't very good pics. I dropped my camera while shooting some photos and now it doesn't want to turn on. I took these with my iPhone so the quality isn't there, but...

A pair of Leopard Wrasses

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Copperband Butterfly Angels

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Orange Shoulder Tangs

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Clown Tangs

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Glad that you realized the failure with a mini-flood as opposed to a major catastophre. For some reason I thought you already had a backup generator. Best investment any reefer can make.

The longest that I recall our electricity going out for was maybe 7 hours and that was ten or eleven years ago. I am not real worried about any major outages, but, I suppose that is what accidents are. We don't have hurricanes, earthquakes or major floods here in Tucson. We do have a monsoon season in July and August. We get some strong winds, lots or rain and some lightening storms.

I do have too much invested in the system not to take the extra precaution. I am definitely looking into a backup generator.
 
I think the Vortech back ups are a great purchase, I have two of them, waiting to go on my 300 gallon build, However, you might test them out to see what kind of flow you get from them while on the battery back up. Another reefer stated, that they go into a lower speed when on the battery back up, which he didn't think would be enough.

Having solar panels put on the roof for a battery back up is a great idea, but I have to sit here and laugh when I think about going to my wife and telling her that I need to install solar panels on the roof for my fish. What has this hobby / obsession done to us. :-)

The battery backups do run at a slower speed although it should be enough for oxygen generation. An MP60 should last up to 20 hours and an MP40 up to 36 hours. Hopefully it would only be needed short term.

I am looking into a generator.

It is funny about "this hobby/obsession..." My kids constantly ask for money for the movies or clothes - as all teenagers do. I never complain - although I now think about things in fish or corals... "Hey that $1,300 Spring Break trip I am sending you on...That will almost pay for a Gem Tang!!!"
 
Wow two clown tangs ! I had one I picked up from a guy who had the fish for five years. The guy told me he was crazy and he was. His color would change when he was mad , it would get darker. I had him for four years my self, I have to say it was a huge favorite of any one who came over as well as my self. I was never able to have one that did well after that one. Please let me know where they are from. I have been looking at all your posts and had to get on board after the clown tangs. Thank you and every one with the great ideas that keep on coming from this thread . How about some kind of you tube video of your tank ? Thank you, Pete
 
I love the Leopard wrasse. I had one about a month ago. And once I put him in my tank, he was swimming around and even eating a little bit. Then a few hours later, he was gone for three days. I found a thread on RC about the leopard wrasse. He came back out for a few days and then I found him dead at the bottom of my tank.
 
Rock/Frag Tank

Rock/Frag Tank

A couple of months ago, I filled my old 150 gallon display tank with live rock and let it cure. I installed a Reeflo Dart Gold on the bottom of the tank, a small sump and my old Reef Octopus (Coralvue) protein skimmer.

The rock has been cured for sometime and this past weekend I removed half of it and placed some of it in my display and some in my 90 gallon rock/filter tank. I decided that I wanted to add some new structures at the sides of my display tank and in between my rock towers. I will try to have Griffin come over and shoot some new pictures soon. I know that finals will be starting for him in the next week or so.

On my old 150 gallon, I decided that I would fill only half of the tank with rock, high enough for frag racks, and the other half would be left for some more aggressive fish.

Plumbing the tank to my existing system will be somewhat challenging, but fun. I picked up a Sicce Syncra 5.0 Pump: 1,321 gph, 12.6' max head, 5.47psi. It's pretty powerful for such a small pump. I need a high head rated pump. My plan is to place it my main sump and with a bunch of 3/4" pvc, plumb it 9' high, across a wall, above a door header, and then down into the the rock tank.

I already drilled and installed a 1 1'2" bulkhead and ball valve, 6" below the top of the rock tank on the opposite side. I picked up two lengths of 1 1/2" pvc and 14' of 1 1/2" flex pvc. I will install the 1 1/2" pvc at a slight angle so that it gravity feeds back into my sump. Unfortunately, my entire plumbing job with both the 3/4" and 1 1/2" pvc will wrap the entire room.

The tank does not need to have a ton of flow as it will always have the dart mixing things up.

The Sicci Syncra Pump:

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My old 150 that will now be used as a rock/filtration/frag & potential hospital or aggressive fish tank:

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Rock/Frag/Filtration Tank

Rock/Frag/Filtration Tank

Attached is a pic of my old 150 now that I have removed half of the rock.

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I still am going to probably add a little more rock to the existing structure. I have asked Simply Elegant Aquatics to order me a few sheets of black egg-crate to lay on the top of the rock structure and the sides.

I have ordered two more Radions from SEA to use on the frag section.

I am not sure what I will put into the empty side of the tank. I keep going back and forth... do I want to use it for aggressive fish? A breeding tank? A hospital tank? Or do I want to use it as a refugium?

I am taking off work on Friday to finish the plumbing - connecting it to my existing system.
 
If I were you, and after seeing a gorgeous Rhinopias at a LFS (the one associated with Unique Corals...), I would definitively go with an "aggressive fish" tank.

ps: said fish looked like the one on the picture here
 
Are you sure you would want rock in a hospital tank. If you set it up for aggressive fish you'll have a home for those that become a problem down the road.

You could add a titan trigger and It could become your timeout corner for those fish that do develop an attitude.

Joe
 
Hey Dan,

Here's my creative idea for the rock tank. Put a couple of inches of large substrate on the bottom. Leave the rock in it. Start collecting macro algaes. And start collecting varieties of pods. Get some live mysis and some live salt water ghost shrimp. Add a dosing pump for phyto to this tank and put it on a very slow feed from the system.

In about 3-6 months you should have a gorgeous overgrown refugium with an exponentially growing pod population. At this point start collecting some of the Brazilian (Orange/Red) seahorses and get a pair of mandarins and increase the flow from your system.

Now you end up with a great sea horse tank, that is constantly live feeding your thriving reef tank.

Pretty soon the the Seahorses may start spawing, and you have your own little saltwater livebearing aquarium.

Just an idea :)

Dave B
 
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