acclimation a total waste of time ?

[Snarkys]

acclimation a total waste of time ?

i got some zoas shipped without water and just wrapped in a wet paper towel . at first i was shocked they were shipped that way but then they all opened faster than any other frag i have got before.

if these can be shipped out of the water for 12 hours, then dipped in fresh water for 5 min and then dropped in my tank and open in less than a hour how can acclimation really matter?

i mean the temp inside the towel was nowhere neer my tank water , im sure the PH is different from paper towel to fresh water to my tank and the saltinity is all different too.

 

[BradL.]

Shipping wet,with no water is common ,because the shipping costs more than the corals themselves.Out of curiousity,where were they purchased?

 

[Dwarfpufferfish]

Same thing happened today to me. Wet with paper towels wrapped around them... I dont know if zoos need to be aclimated, they seem pretty hardy!

 

[TheMcs]

I just float them for 10 minutes and in they go. All seem to do fine that way.

 

[EvilMel]

Hi guys, how were these shipped? overnight? I am very curious about this method of shipment as well.

Also, wouldn't a coral that's only damp (not in water) just be happy to be IN water once it's in your tank? Acclimation is about equalizing conditions between the two different waters, so it should have some importance. But to be honest I have known more than one person (including a reef store) who only acclimated for temperature. They just dumped corals in the tank without any water exchange as long as the temp was equalized.

 

[Dwarfpufferfish]

my corals were shipped overnight... But really, with the wet paper towel method it would be next to impossible to equalize tempature... Floating the bag would take forever to equalize. Heat does not trasfer very well with out the water in the bag!

 

[xacttech]

You don't have to acclimate if they were shipped in a paper towel...

Same with snails, if they were shipped "DRY" you don't have to acclimate... Any water is better than the "no" water they were just in.

 

[Snarkys]

my corals were shipped overnight... But really, with the wet paper towel method it would be next to impossible to equalize tempature... Floating the bag would take forever to equalize. Heat does not trasfer very well with out the water in the bag!

when i talked to him about the method of shipping, the reason he told me they do this is because air transfers heat much faster than water so the heat pack more effectively keeps the corals warm.

You don't have to acclimate if they were shipped in a paper towel...

Same with snails, if they were shipped "DRY" you don't have to acclimate... Any water is better than the "no" water they were just in.

so if they were shipped in water would you do any other acclimation other than temp ? if so why would you bother ?

btw , everyone always says snails are so fragile and supseptable to salitinity changes so they need a longer drip aclimation prosses. how can this be true if people ship them dry and it works out fine?

 

[Dubbin1]

I just let them float for 30 min and put them in. Note that I have never lost a zoo by doing this.

 

[vitaldefect001]

i've never aclamated my snails....
not a singel loss...

 

[hellraisers30]

i really never acclimate my zoo's and have never had any problems and they seem to open up right away

 

[Snarkys]

when i talked to him about the method of shipping, the reason he told me they do this is because air transfers heat much faster than water so the heat pack more effectively keeps the corals warm.

anyone like to validate this or invalidate it ??

think of any other reasons why shipping in paper towel could bet a better alternative , well other than cost.

 

[orb]

anthony calfo's "book of propagation" touches on that subject. it says that this method works great on tidal creatures-they just act like the tide has come in. dry shipping is successful with xeniids, zoanthids, sps, etc....good book highly recommended. hth

 

[DonavonsReef]

True, alot of zoos are intertidal and survie out of water for hours during the tide change. Most wholesalers recieve their zoos shipped dry, so to speak.

 

[EnderG60]

aclimation is dumb, especially for zoo's

at most for anything i buy, it gets no more then 10 min floating and then in it goes.

dont waste your time

 

[fussoverthis]

I had four different kinds of zoas that were hitchhikers on my LR. They are thriving.

I temperature acclimate all corals - that's all.

Oh, well...lighting acclimation is also important.

 

[Eight]

I never acclimate corals and I haven't lost any yet due to this.

Shrimp and starfish, however are another matter entirely. I acclimate those over the course of an hour usually. I used to just dump them in and then wonder why they always died within 48 hours.

 

[masterqaz]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=5098547#post5098547 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by orb
anthony calfo's "book of propagation" touches on that subject. it says that this method works great on tidal creatures-they just act like the tide has come in. dry shipping is successful with xeniids, zoanthids, sps, etc....good book highly recommended. hth

not so much with the xeniids as if exposed to air they are 90 percent more likely to die then if shipped in water. Very sensitive to air. I've tryed...doesnt work very well.

 

[jessiesgrrl]

Isn't someone doing a research study on this at the moment? I wanted to say Miguel (with volunteers- not consumers) at Fraggle Reef?

Miguel, you out there? Help me out?

Laurie

 

[organism]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7995907#post7995907 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jessiesgrrl
Isn't someone doing a research study on this at the moment? I wanted to say Miguel (with volunteers- not consumers) at Fraggle Reef?

Miguel, you out there? Help me out?

Laurie

yup, there's a giant study being undertaken to see which corals do well under what conditions with damp shipping, and how to use that to drastically lower shipping costs

unfortunately, it's a slow process since no other companies want to help fund the study (free corals are expensive), so I expect it'll be at least december before any good results are ready. since I'm going over it species by species, I may release a species specific study for each one, so that people can start using the results to better ship stuff, we'll see how it goes though

one thing I can say for certain is that thin skinned mushrooms such as small hairy mushrooms don't fare well at all, whereas thick skinned mushrooms like tonga mushrooms tend to do well