Acclimation Box Method for Anemone Hosting

[reppo13]

I disagree with this attitude completely when the lives of animals are at stake.

Do you feed your dogs chicken bones? Why not? Because they splinter and kill dogs. Now you might WANT to feed your dog chicken bones. You could even be forgiven if you feed your dogs chicken bones through ignorance. But if you have dozens of people (including vets) telling you not to feed your dog chicken bones and you STILL do it, what is that called? Worse, do you come to Internet forums and say "I stand by my earlier comments that chicken bones don't kill dogs" even though it is a known fact that they do, every year?

See the other recent thread about people watching a YouTube video about someone cutting a S. haddoni anemone into four pieces. I've watched that video and all I see is someone killing an anemone. However other people watch it and think "hey look - four anemones out of one!" and think they can slice up THEIR anemones. It should be the responsibility of everyone here to correct people if they are about to do something that will put the lives of their animals at risk.

FWIW, I'm not trying to double back on myself but what you said is what I was trying to portray. My statement was not leaning to a bad side, it's neutral. I know there is a sense of ignorance and a lack of responsibility but IMO these fish are small and many people take this as a hobby, and NOT as a pet. Sometimes money isn't an issue for them so they don't care. Personally I take my fish as pets and I am responsible enough to know that this is life and death. Also, until any type of legitimate documentation of forcing anemones to host clowns is written, this problem will come up over and over again. Leaning people in the right direction through constructive criticism is a good thing, I was just trying help a fellow reefer from being ridiculed by pointing out his "screw ups".

On the other hand, I own a dog and have never even heard of feeding chicken bones to them. Maybe I'm too young (16), but I know full well that its in your hands to provide the best care. My argument is not whether or not its good or bad to use this method, it was simply stating that it shouldn't take arguing tell people it's a bad method.

Lastly, I've seen that video plenty of times and you can bet your a** that I pounded the dislike button, and gave my opinion on it. I'm glad were working as a community to push people in the right direction, like I said before... no arguing is needed.

 

[aday2remmbr]

I disagree with this attitude completely when the lives of animals are at stake.

Do you feed your dogs chicken bones? Why not? Because they splinter and kill dogs. Now you might WANT to feed your dog chicken bones. You could even be forgiven if you feed your dogs chicken bones through ignorance. But if you have dozens of people (including vets) telling you not to feed your dog chicken bones and you STILL do it, what is that called? Worse, do you come to Internet forums and say "I stand by my earlier comments that chicken bones don't kill dogs" even though it is a known fact that they do, every year?

See the other recent thread about people watching a YouTube video about someone cutting a S. haddoni anemone into four pieces. I've watched that video and all I see is someone killing an anemone. However other people watch it and think "hey look - four anemones out of one!" and think they can slice up THEIR anemones. It should be the responsibility of everyone here to correct people if they are about to do something that will put the lives of their animals at risk.

perfect analogy, i know this specific person wont stop doing this in order to make their clowns host nems, he will just have to learn the hard way. when misinformation like this is spread around the forum the best we can do is discourage people from listening.

 

[MikeInToronto]

I just wanted to state my experience regarding the topic of this thread. When I was first starting out in the hobby (and this was a long time ago, when I was young (and stupid) and before CB clowns were available) I bought a Tomato Clown as my first clown. I had it for a while before I bought a Long Tentacle Anemone. The clown wouldn't touch it. I didn't really know why at the time. I just wanted the clown to live in the anemone. I moved the anemone to a small tank (2-3 gallons) and added the clown. Slowly I removed water until the clown had to touch the anemone. The clown was stung and looked exactly like EC's pic in post #20. It died within about 48 hours. I also tried this with another species (skunk maybe; can't remember) and there was "success" in the sense that the clown didn't die but it didn't adopt the forced host. Since then I have never tried to force a relationship. Instead, I just choose clowns that either accept any host readily (i.e. Clarkii clowns) or I choose clowns that are natural to the host (e.g. saddlebacks to Haddonis). In my current situation, I found a purple LTA I loved and I found a clown I loved (black-footed) and if the relationship worked, great. If not, no problem. (In this case it worked out.) The relationship is not that important to me so there really is not reason to force it. This is especially true since there is evidence that some clowns will accept a host as much as 3 years after the introduction.

Regarding healthy fishes not getting eaten by anemones, a year or so back I lost quite a few healthy chromis to a Haddoni. At night they drifted and the anemone caught them. It also caught a very healthy Purple Tang. All I found was the bones the anemone spit out. I got rid of the anemone. I keep my current anemone in a dedicated tank now.

Anyway, that was my experience.