Acclimation questions

[leviburns89]

So this just clicked in my head.

Do we really need to acclimate everything so tediously??

I do understand getting the temp balanced, and if there is a huge difference I'm salinity, yes, change it slowly.

But I was watching the tide pools, and noticed;

These creatures in tide pools (most of which are the livestock we keep), spend a very long time each day in a secluded puddle, where the temperature rises significantly, and if there happens to be a fish, or 5, ammonia must be building up as well, or if it rains during low tide the salinity must be crazy low.

And when the tide comes back in, it's all instantly reverted back to seawater params.

Yet there is zero die off.

If this were false, everytime is low tide, and gets a good rain, once the tide comes back in, everything would die.

But in these tide pools you find pretty much every species we keep, from clownfish, octopus, anemones, morphs, sps, lps, softys, seahorses, cucumbers, crabs, snails, the list literally has no end....

So what gives? Why do we stress so much over acclimation?

Even Reef Cleaners recommends only to float the bags for 15, then dump 'em in.

I also understand that a lot of pests can hitchhike in, and this is more of an observation/manual removal procedure. But that could all be avoided with a dip in the proper solution. For example, if a frag has flatworms on it, dip it in FW and watch them shrivel of in just a few seconds like the wicked witch of the west. Many inverts cannot tolerate even a few seconds in FW.


Any thoughts on this? I am very open to ideas/criticism. I'm in the business of learning


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[Dmorty217]

I temp acclimate then put a formalin bath with all new water for 45 mins. After that the fish goes into the QT tank. I haven't drip acclimated a fish in quite sometime now. Things that naturally live in tide pools are much better suited to deal with temp and salinity swings than say a delicate fish that doesn't live in those areas. I often feel that acclimation of fish is highly over rated

 

[leviburns89]

I temp acclimate then put a formalin bath with all new water for 45 mins. After that the fish goes into the QT tank. I haven't drip acclimated a fish in quite sometime now. Things that naturally live in tide pools are much better suited to deal with temp and salinity swings than say a delicate fish that doesn't live in those areas. I often feel that acclimation of fish is highly over rated

This is true, but

We are talking the genetic evolution of a species that has spent probably a hundred thousand years adapting to sea conditions.

And just within the last decade have we began to breed in captivity, and expect that small 10-20 years to genetically adapt them to tank conditions vs sea conditions which they have spent over a million years in?

Not arguing, just what runs through my head when I think of the big picture.

I do however believe it's the constant change in params that gives us the disadvantage.

A fish has to go from the source, to a wholesaler, to a dealer, and then you your home. Usually within the same week. That I can see being a problem, a different bag of water every 12 hours...

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[snorvich]

Match QT SG to transport water SG. Temp acclimate shipping bag for 15 minutes and you will be fine.

 

[cougareyes]

Match QT SG to transport water SG. Temp acclimate shipping bag for 15 minutes and you will be fine.

That's what I do!

 

[Sk8r]

And if you don't know at what SG they ship, phone the seller and ask. Do not open the bag until you are ready to test quickly, to be sure, then transfer.

 

[Bent]

Ya know I've been thinking about something.

Somerimes temp acclimation can take up to 30 minutes depending on the water volume in the bag. So you have to know what it was shipped in SG wise before you open the bag.

What if one were to:

1: Poke a hole in the bottom of the bag.
2: drain a tiny amount of water into a cup.
3: put bag with hole in it into another bag and tie it.


I can't see this affecting the PH of the bag water and you could still get the actual SG of the bag water without starting your 30 minute count down.

Would that work?