Acropora tissue bubbling. Disease?

So... I'm not sure if this has anything to do with anything, but I took 71xlch's advice, went back to basics, and am now dosing equal amounts of a balanced alk a calcium supplement. I thought I'd see a massive spike in my calcium levels, but I didn't. In fact, things started growing so fast I've had to up my dosing rate of both by 20 mL/day a week for the last three weeks.

no new plasias have formed on my corals since I did this, and in fact... my worst hit colony (the one pictured on the first page) has branched off several brand new, completely healthy looking growth tips from one of the worst branches. My pink lemonade, which had one tip out of 20 swell up like a balloon a couple of days before I changed my dosing regimen, has returned to normal.

This is by no means a smoking bullet, and my 'Big three' levels were never really that much out of balance. However, I'm adding huge volumes of alk and calcium supplement to my tank relative to its size, and I was adding twice as much alk supplement per day as calcium supplement for the better part of a year. This means I was also adding twice as much sodium to the tank as chloride. Go figure things would only start improving when I'd do 3 or 4 large water changes in a row. It's not something we have a test for (sodium/chloride balance), but has anyone else experiencing this examined their dosing regimen? Do we know what the chemical consequences of adding twice as much sodium as chloride might be? Or what that might do to a coral?

That's good news about the growth explosion! I am also having one currently on my montipora's. My two worst hit acros still look like crap but everything else appears to be getting better. Hoping in a month I'll have some BRS Dosers instead of by hand. Help smooth out the addition of 70ml of each into 60 gallons.

Please let us know in the coming weeks how things are.
 
Well I'm definitely beginning to understand how much harder it is to maintain a mature SPS reef than brand new one. two years ago I had to think about water chemistry one a month at most. I upped my dosing rate on Friday again to 500 ml/day of both the alkalinity and calcium supplement, and by today my dKH had still fallen by 1.12. With a balanced addition things really seem to be picking up speed.
 
Since I have been able to keep alk stable since my last dip I'd say I'm back to 80% bubble free coral. Starting to think it has to do with alk swings.
 
I had a few tips bubble up on an acro. I also let my calcium get down to 350 when I started dosing 2 part instead of using a calcium reactor. I have been dosing about 3/4 of a cup per day for a few weeks and it has only gotten it up to 390. I have had the calcium reactor back on since then. I will post if the tips go away, that is if I can get the calcium up... This is always a part of my routine every few years. I let calcium slip, the other is my rodi prefilters, but I have been better on that the past few. Things happen in life and I seem to let the basics slip some.

My reactor is running great now and I have got the calcium up to 450 finally, half a jug of bionic. The tips are no longer bubbling and stuff looks a little better too. I think the calcium is an issue causing the bubbling tips. My thoughts in the beginning were maybe low strontium could affect corals in this way as well. Soft skeletons and weird growth at least.

Seems once a year or two I forget about calcium and something bad always happens. That and TDS. Maybe I should start a calendar :)
 
When I had my issue I did notice that the "bubbling" would go away as some of you have just stated. It's the tissue deformity that seemed for me at least, to be permanent. Is the deformed tissue and growth getting better for you guys too?
 
The places that were deformed appear to be permanent, but new growth coming out of the deformities appears normal. Fwiw, I've been tracking all every day now that I'm dosing a balanced additive in equal proportions. I'm up to 900mL/day of tropic Marin's part A and B to keep my dKH over 7.

Considering that a few weeks ago I was dosing like 400 mL of alk and 200mL of calcium, I'm starting to feel more confident that at least in my tank this was an issue with the big three.

What's nuts is that the way I was doing it before, my levels were never really all that "off". They were on the low side, and now checking my numbers against some of the charts online they were never 'balanced' (surprise surprise, alk was too high for my calcium level even though both were really low). It's like I was giving them just enough to not kill them.

Now that I've corrected this I've never seen growth this fast in my tank before, even on colonies that were hard hit by the bubbling.
 
The places that were deformed appear to be permanent, but new growth coming out of the deformities appears normal. Fwiw, I've been tracking all every day now that I'm dosing a balanced additive in equal proportions. I'm up to 900mL/day of tropic Marin's part A and B to keep my dKH over 7.

Considering that a few weeks ago I was dosing like 400 mL of alk and 200mL of calcium, I'm starting to feel more confident that at least in my tank this was an issue with the big three.

What's nuts is that the way I was doing it before, my levels were never really all that "off". They were on the low side, and now checking my numbers against some of the charts online they were never 'balanced' (surprise surprise, alk was too high for my calcium level even though both were really low). It's like I was giving them just enough to not kill them.

Now that I've corrected this I've never seen growth this fast in my tank before, even on colonies that were hard hit by the bubbling.

So glad to hear your results, keep up the good work and im sure everything will work out for the better. Sometimes ignorance can really deceive the most experienced reefers.
 
I'm up to 900mL/day of tropic Marin's part A and B to keep my dKH over 7.

900ml a day? 1000ml = 1l = 33.8oz. 900ml = 30.42oz. That's almost a quart per day. You're going through a gallon of each supplement every 4 days? 7-8 gallons of each per month?
 
Yup. I'm a little shocked by it, but I've been diligent with testing. I thought my dosing pump must be broken but I've marked it on my dosing containers (which are four gallons), and the volume is accurate.

I just posted this in a different thread, but I blame it on the montiporas visible in these pics:




Tank is 6' x 30" x 27".
 
Wow. Ok. That is a large water volume, and a number of stony corals. Tank looks good!

Have you considered a calcium reactor? You have enough going on there that it could make sense.
 
Yes, but when I built the tank I didn't have space for one. Now I do, but my house has been for sale for a while and the tank is built in so its either coming out altogether, or staying for the new owners, so I've been trying to avoid anything other than maintenance levels of investment.
 
So it's taken weeks of fiddling and testing, but I'm now up to 950 mL/day of both tropic marin part A and part B and the dKH has been holding rock steady at 7.5.

All the plasia (I can't remember now if it was neo or hyper) has stopped. All of it.

I can't help but wonder how much of the trouble I've had for the last year was related to an unbalanced dosing regimen that was masking my tank's 'true' demand for supplementation. I'm starting to think it was most of it.

Here's some top downs of a once again happy reef. Half the corals in these pictures didn't seem like they were going to live a couple of months ago. They're now growing like did when I first got them! A few of the smaller ones are frags of previously large colonies that I nearly lost that limped along until I corrected this issue with my water chemistry.


 
Awesome, glad you got it figure out. I can't imagine dosing that much a day, I better get a backup plan! Is the gyre the only means of flow in the tank right now?
 
I have a gyre on either side of the north overflow and they alternate being on every 20 minutes. Plus my return pump pushes 2800 gph. The tank should really have 4 gyres because of those awful internal overflows, but they really do a great job of getting the whole water column moving. The 20 minute break from hard-core flow really helps my elegance and frogspawns.
 
My calcium dropped to 300 last week oops! Of course the SPS warned me by bubbling up. I believe bubbling is caused by General stress and many different things can cause it. Because a long time ago I had some severe alk issues and they bubbled up. My pieces are looking much better now that problem is fixed but I don't think I'm quite out of the woods yet
 
I have bubbles or blisters looks like on My SSC mini colony not all acros were affected but it has bin around 4 weeks now and not seeing it improve at all. It happened when I changed the setting on my ballast without taking a par reading and it got around 3 days of 800par when it was only getting 430par. Big 3 are not a prob holds rock steady the only other thing I did was dose acropower and some dvh bio grow bacteria from my normal zeobak dosing so stopped that did a 30gal water changes 2 weeks in a row going to do another today.
 
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Hey all.

I hadn't checked in here in some time -- I just want to corroborate something.

Asylumdown has likely figured out the problem I had as well. We ALWAYS had to dose heavily uneven amounts of calc and alk. We had some serious growth happening in multiple colonies when I started needing the uneven dosing, and the hyperplasia quickly followed.

We've since torn down and will be restarting, but seriously, hats off to this man.

Just looking at that tank, you can see the result of that quality of reefing.

*clap*!
 
For what it's worth I'll copy paste my response from an older thread here for you guys

"That is a reaction to an imbalance between mag and cal. The coral is favoring the calcite polymorph of CaCO3 versus the aragonite polymorph. It is usually a non issue short term but extended ionic imbalances will have negative outcomes."

Link to that thread.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792536

Another reefer here who had this is flagswipe if you are looking for more reference photos
 
That matches up with asylumdown's imbalanced 2 part fix, and my (never fixed, but was definitely happening) imbalanced 2 part addition.

Really a relief knowing what the cause was.

For what it's worth I'll copy paste my response from an older thread here for you guys

"That is a reaction to an imbalance between mag and cal. The coral is favoring the calcite polymorph of CaCO3 versus the aragonite polymorph. It is usually a non issue short term but extended ionic imbalances will have negative outcomes."

Link to that thread.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=792536

Another reefer here who had this is flagswipe if you are looking for more reference photos
 
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