I know that carbon/BP are a factor, or seem to be, for many people. FWIW, we have never dosed carbon/run biopellets. We do have really good color and nearly 0 nuisance algae, so maybe we have similar conditions. (We feed really heavily.)
Acropora tissue bubbling. Disease?
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AugustWest
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Excellent job obtaining all that info. At least the next person searching for help on this will find some useful information other than the usual response of"check your Magnesium"...
I'm running ATI T5's over my tank. I also used Biopellets for 8 months. Ended up tossing the colonies affected. Started over with SPS frags and have not had a reoccurrence ( knock wood) Only changes I made were removing Biopellets and reducing flow.
I'm running ATI T5's over my tank. I also used Biopellets for 8 months. Ended up tossing the colonies affected. Started over with SPS frags and have not had a reoccurrence ( knock wood) Only changes I made were removing Biopellets and reducing flow.
How much did you reduce flow by? I've changed my pattern to not have uni-directional, but haven't really reduced it per-say.
*CONGRATS* on no recurrence. Did you tear the tank down and recycle, or were you just SPS-fallow in the interim?
*CONGRATS* on no recurrence. Did you tear the tank down and recycle, or were you just SPS-fallow in the interim?
AugustWest
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I went from running the MP40 at 100% down to 75% and the MP10 from 100% down to 90%. Didn't change their positioning at all and still run Reefcrest mainly. NTM on occasion
I did not restart the tank, I just disposed of the affected colonies and began adding SPS shortly after removal.
Really interesting. Congrats again on getting non-deformed growth. Bet it feels good!
SneekaPeek
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has anyone dipped effected corals yet with a product like coralrx or revive from tlf.
I haven't. I'll make a Joe the Coral frag and try though. My gut tells me it won't do anything. We use Bayer for pest doing now.... I've got Rx and revive. Suggestions on which to try?
SneekaPeek
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try the revive and see how things work out. give the frag a week to heal up some though. don't want to kill the fragment from chopping it up and dipping right away.
Panta rhei
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Tried CoralRx without any improvement
SneekaPeek
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thanks, appreciate the input. I had different results while dipping that's why i mention the dip specifically tlf revive.
SneekaPeek
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hey larcat, do you run activated carbon in your system to rid of toxins?
Added a reactor and Rox 2 weeks ago. My better half is convicted it is allelopathy. We do have some large Acan colonies and about 20 ricordia, and a handful of ZnP. Still more acros than anything. Only 60 gallons total system Viking, so I'm hoping it is allelopathy. Not going to make any other major changes for a month or two to try and test this in a controlled-ish situation.
Wait, did you dip some frags in Revive and the Hyperplasia went away, while non-dipped SPS maintained the Hyperplasia?
Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post. If that above is the case, that is potentially a big deal.
FWIW, I made Tubbs and Pac Man frags about a week ago.
The Tubbs frags are completely healed now/have new growth (same with the colony.
The Pac Man frags are just healing now......
While the hyperplasia doesn't kill, it *definetly* slows growth down.
When all the corals in my system were healthy, Tubbs was a moderate grower at best....
Edit -- Yes I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but still.
Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post. If that above is the case, that is potentially a big deal.
FWIW, I made Tubbs and Pac Man frags about a week ago.
The Tubbs frags are completely healed now/have new growth (same with the colony.
The Pac Man frags are just healing now......
While the hyperplasia doesn't kill, it *definetly* slows growth down.
When all the corals in my system were healthy, Tubbs was a moderate grower at best....
Edit -- Yes I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here, but still.
AugustWest
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Just thought of something else. What kind of lights and what photoperiod are you using?When my affected corals were frags my tank was pretty new and I was new to T5 lighting. I'm running an ATI Sunpower 8 bulb fixture and at the time I was running all the lights for 9 or 10 hours , I forget exactly,which I eventually realized was too long and lowered it to 8 hours for all bulbs.
Did this for quite some time until I realized 8 hours was still too much ( SPS were pale) finally realized that 6 hours with all lights was the sweet spot and is still the photoperiod I use today.
Keep in mind that this is only a 18" high tank, this could definitely fit in with the UV theory. No doubt I was blasting the corals with light. HTH and good luck to you.
Did this for quite some time until I realized 8 hours was still too much ( SPS were pale) finally realized that 6 hours with all lights was the sweet spot and is still the photoperiod I use today.
Keep in mind that this is only a 18" high tank, this could definitely fit in with the UV theory. No doubt I was blasting the corals with light. HTH and good luck to you.
SneekaPeek
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As I mentioned way earlier in the beginning it was a combo of getting my alk back to healthy parameters and I dipped my infected coral in revive. First the tissue had a couple bubbles in it like neoplasia (First pic in page 1 of my posts), then once i dipped the coral for x amount of time, the coral changed from a bubble to a different growth like the second pic I posted on page 1. After a month or 2 of stable parameters and such the growth kinda shed off so to speak. It healed itself through time. So I don't know if it was the dip that helped or the alk that helped.
If you really want to get risky, try dipping the coral for an extended period of time if the regular dip time doesn't change anything. I'm not saying it will heal/cure the coral, but its worth a try. Im just posting my experiences with such incidents.
Awesome, thanks.
If the tea tree oil in these dips is "harsher" on hyperplasial acro flesh, but less harsh on healthy flesh, maybe this could be a solution.... Kill off the hyperplasial flesh with dip, let the coral heal itself with healthy flesh....
If you look closely at a coral the is badly blistered, the polyps "tulip." I don't know if this is because the polyps themselves are deformed, or because the hyperplasial flesh is constricting the polyp. Regardless, they don't open/extend fully/normally, so eating is almost certainly impaired, which might be why growth slows.... If the polyps aren't deformed, just constricted, if it is possible to selectively kill off the hyperplasial flesh, maybe that is a solution.
Total conjecture on my part, risky, and importantly requires an otherwise healthy/stable tank (since this will stress the hell out of the coral), but at least it makes some intuitive sense?
Thanks much for the contribution SneekaPeek.
If the tea tree oil in these dips is "harsher" on hyperplasial acro flesh, but less harsh on healthy flesh, maybe this could be a solution.... Kill off the hyperplasial flesh with dip, let the coral heal itself with healthy flesh....
If you look closely at a coral the is badly blistered, the polyps "tulip." I don't know if this is because the polyps themselves are deformed, or because the hyperplasial flesh is constricting the polyp. Regardless, they don't open/extend fully/normally, so eating is almost certainly impaired, which might be why growth slows.... If the polyps aren't deformed, just constricted, if it is possible to selectively kill off the hyperplasial flesh, maybe that is a solution.
Total conjecture on my part, risky, and importantly requires an otherwise healthy/stable tank (since this will stress the hell out of the coral), but at least it makes some intuitive sense?
Thanks much for the contribution SneekaPeek.
asylumdown
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The past week I've been extra diligent with my params - testing every day and keeping it between 130 and 133 ppm CO3 on the hanna alkalinity checker. I've also done three 50 gallon water changes in the last 7 days. Starting to have a bit of an issue with cyano, but all my corals seem to be leaping to life with new growth tips forming all over the place, and visible elongation in just the past week. I'm hard pressed to find any bubbles on the big bonsai, there's still a few there, but the majority seem to have deflated. that other green acro I posted a pic of earlier has seen no improvement however.
This certainly seems environmental, but what issue all those water changes is correcting does not appear to be something I have a test for.
Can I ask how everyone who's experiencing this is maintaining their big three? I'm having to dose MASSIVE amounts of alk and calcium supplements to keep up with the amount of coral I have in here. They're not dosed in exactly equal proportions. I'm wondering if maybe an imbalance between the sodium and chloride ions is developing?
This certainly seems environmental, but what issue all those water changes is correcting does not appear to be something I have a test for.
Can I ask how everyone who's experiencing this is maintaining their big three? I'm having to dose MASSIVE amounts of alk and calcium supplements to keep up with the amount of coral I have in here. They're not dosed in exactly equal proportions. I'm wondering if maybe an imbalance between the sodium and chloride ions is developing?
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