Add a Hippo Tang???

I cringe every time I see someone say they'll just sell the fish back to the LFS. We have an LFS here in town that has 5 LARGE tanks full of big fish that they took back and they can't sell. Which explains why their prices are the highest in town...they have to take care of a bunch of large fish that'll never make them a dime.
 
I cringe every time I see someone say they'll just sell the fish back to the LFS. We have an LFS here in town that has 5 LARGE tanks full of big fish that they took back and they can't sell. Which explains why their prices are the highest in town...they have to take care of a bunch of large fish that'll never make them a dime.

From this I will have to agree with Sushi Girl. One of the lfs's near me has two display tanks. One is a 240 gallon reef with a 6" yellow tang and a 7" blue hippo tang. The tank next to it is a 240 FOWLR. This one has a 5" purple tang(they took it from someone's tank when they saw it had HLLE) and a returned Red Sea Sailfin Tang. The purple tang, a pork fish(8"), dogface puffer(I think full grown), and several other fish in that tank have been up for sale for over a year. No wonder they charge $45 for clown fish!
 
If you were going to add the fish anyway, why did you even bother asking on here to only bash the ppl trying to give you advice?

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk

+1 to this. It happens way too often that people are just posting to hear what they want and then ignore advice and/or become hostile when it's not what they wanted to hear.

Buying fish you will have to re-home at a later date is just a foolish strategy when stocking a fish tank. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general so many things can happen that unless you're capable of caring for a fish long term you shouldn't be purchasing it.
 
Tangs grow to be a spectacular reef fish; they are hardy, eat well in captivity, don’t bother sessile invertebrates, and rarely quarrels with other reef fish (except, of course, other tangs). Sounds like the perfect addition to your reef aquarium, right? The problem is that Hepatus tangs, which this poster wants to add to a small tank, grow to reach a length of one foot! They are also the fish most susceptible to cryptocaryon irritans.

Some aquarists such as ones on this thread say they plan to keep a particular fish until it outgrows their home aquarium and then donate it to a public aquarium, another aquarist or their LFS. While this sounds reasonable, it shouldn’t be assumed that the local public aquarium, LFS, or fellow hobbyist will accept your donation. Most public aquariums are inundated with donations of fish and simply don’t have the room or need for many fish. And of course, the health of your environment, no matter how good, is an unknown to public aquaria. LFS will only take fish they can sell. Large fish require large tanks and few folks really have LARGE tanks; some do most do not.

I’ve often seen the statement, “I’ll get a bigger aquarium when it grows.” While this is honorable, it rarely materializes. My estimate of upgrades that NEVER happen is about 90%, or in this economy, probably more. The fish frequently suffers and dies long before a new and appropriate habitat is obtained.

Then there is the attitude that you’re not going to keep the fish alive long enough for it to outgrow your aquarium anyway. While this is rarely said aloud, we all know it’s out there and came up implicitly in this thread. Aquarists with this mentality should find another hobby.

The other side of the argument is illustrated by these statements: “So what if we purchase a fish that will outgrow its cage.” “After all, we’re not obliged to recreate a natural habitat for a fish to live out its natural lifespan.” “It’s already been taken from its “home” and placed in a glass box, so what difference does it make how long it lives?” “Let’s not kid ourselves; we’re not coming close to creating a natural reef in our homes anyway.” “Assuming it’s not an endangered species, there’s no harm done.” “After all, we capture many species of fish to eat and no one complains about that.” There is some validity to these arguments. After all, what is the point of our home aquariums? Guilty pleasures, a home decoration, an educational instrument. In any case, the goal is rarely to see how close we can come to keeping a fish alive for its natural lifespan.
 
+1 to this. it happens way too often that people are just posting to hear what they want and then ignore advice and/or become hostile when it's not what they wanted to hear.

Buying fish you will have to re-home at a later date is just a foolish strategy when stocking a fish tank. Obviously there are exceptions, but in general so many things can happen that unless you're capable of caring for a fish long term you shouldn't be purchasing it.
+1
 
Should have figured out that you would come by and post that Steve :) true reefs don't get to swap out the fish they have when they outgrow the space. So you shouldn't be doing it to your tank of you want a easily maintained reef aquarium.
 
If you were going to add the fish anyway, why did you even bother asking on here to only bash the ppl trying to give you advice?

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
when did I say I was going to add they fish anyway? I said thanks for the input everybody this will aid in our decison. It seems like most of you are accusing us of doing it already gees! The advice was taken after the first three posts, read through the entire post before you write something like this. I joined this forum so that we can get friendly advice and support from, people in the same hobbie, this thread has been far from friendly....
 
If you can't see the issues with keeping a fish that gets over a foot long in a 4/5 foot tank, there isn't much that can be done.

I never disagreed with anyone about keeping them in a 4ft tank, I posted my question then took advice. Why are people posting on here making it seem like I am refusing advice???
 
Not all posts are directed towards the original poster. In fact most of this was directed towards Milspec, Peter Collins and others who think that you will be fine. Things do get a little heated up on this forum over things like this. There really is no harm done and in the heat of the moment, what we type may sound more aggressive than it is actually intended to be. Just read with a monotone voice in your head over posts, at least that is what I try to do as it is rather hard.
 
Our apologies to Toddrtrex, but in the case of hybridazn's comments, it was apparently directed towards us.

Apologizes, I got your post confused with milspec's where he stated he is swapping out one of his tangs for a blue tang asap. It was just a misunderstanding. Sorry for the confusion

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk
 
The thing with hippo tangs is if you go to most UK lfs ( i assume USA is the same ) they will have a tank with say thirty 1 inch hippos and another tank with say twenty at 2 inch. Now the recommened tank size is 8ft and the shops are full of them but what percentage of all those fish are lucky enough to get the 8 footer, maybe 2 or 3%. Surely its the responsibility of the shop staff to educate the customers before making a sale, some customers just see a small cute blue fish and want it end of story
To the op your tank is to small for a hippo
john
 
I only have two lfs's that stock blue hippo tangs in large nummbers. Funny thing is that once you make your purchase, they are in your hands and they want nothing to do with it so if it dies on the way home you are out of luck. My reputable lfs's don't keep any particular fish heavily stocked. Just a few of various vareties, but just three or 4 fish in a 20 gallon tank. Look for the lfs's like the second ones mentioned and you should be good with your fish making it!
 
The thing with hippo tangs is if you go to most UK lfs ( i assume USA is the same ) they will have a tank with say thirty 1 inch hippos and another tank with say twenty at 2 inch. Now the recommened tank size is 8ft and the shops are full of them but what percentage of all those fish are lucky enough to get the 8 footer, maybe 2 or 3%. Surely its the responsibility of the shop staff to educate the customers before making a sale, some customers just see a small cute blue fish and want it end of story
To the op your tank is to small for a hippo
john

Thanks, John for your response. I presume that you live in the UK. It sounds like you are saying that, in the UK, the recommended tank size for a hippo is an 8ft tank, but that people instead put them in smaller tanks (perhaps because they are not educated about the proper minimum size). Do you know if there is a UK website that recommends this? The reason that I ask is because an earlier poster seemed to suggest that there are different recommendations for hippos in the US as compared to the UK/Europe. I would like to know if that is accurate so that I can determine if there is a difference and if so, why. Thanks in advance.
 
in australia the information that is usually presented to people is that a 6x2x2 is acceptable but still considered small for blue tangs.

The problem is that people do not care about fish. They keep them cause they are pretty, but they do not care whether they live or die long term as they will get bored with the maintenance of the tank way before that. its systematic of society whereby short term happiness/saity is the ONLY consideration in any purchase.

I've seen people be told that the tang/fish will outgrow their tank in a few months but they dont care cause they wont it. And at the end of the day these people make up the majority of the customer base for companies so they cant deny them or they will go out of business. It's no different than selling junk food to a fat person at the supermarket, its no recommended and can have serious detrimental long term effects on quality of life but the supermarket isnt going to stop selling chips to fatty or they will loose considerable amounts of money.
 
Back
Top