Addiction wins, 450 gallon system begins
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NexDog: There are a total of 6 1" OM nozzles. 4 are driven by a dart on the 4-way and then there are two full time for the sump return which is a barracuda. I'm guessing that the flow from the sump is around 1500-1700 gph right now. I'm getting a tad of flushing, so I may have to back the flow from the sump down to 1300 or so. I don't think the drain can take much more.
I'm really only planning a few SPS closer to the hallides and in higher flow areas. Kind of hard to explain what I have envisioned for the tank. You never know what might happen in the future though. I think I have about 13-14X turn over right now. I'm really shooting for a mixed reef with a few SPS colonies and some zoos etc. It will most likely take a couple years to get it to the picture in my head
HA.. That's funny I was just going to hit the post button and mention that and poof there you are. Tunze would be an option...LOL
Yeah, but if the bug bites I'll be looking at 400 watt MH and a chiller and calcium reactor and................ Man my wallet is already flat from this. I'm going to have to mention the second job to the wife again
Yeah, but if the bug bites I'll be looking at 400 watt MH and a chiller and calcium reactor and................ Man my wallet is already flat from this. I'm going to have to mention the second job to the wife again
GregM779: Thanks Greg, hopefully things smooth out.
I'm a little concerned over the heat of the tank right now. With no lights the temp balanced out at 79 degrees last night and this morning. I turned the VHOs on for a few hours this afternoon, plus the heat of the wetroom jumped to 76 while I was at work and raised things to 80.5 in the tank. I'm not 100% certain that the AC JR is correct though. If I stick my trusty floating theometer that I've had for 10 years in it, it reads about 1-1.5 degrees cooler.
But back to the point, I'm concerned that once the halides are going and the lights are running full durations, the temp is going to spike way higher than I anticipated. It's the heat from the pumps that I think I failed to anticipate enough. The headspace over the top of the tank from the lights seems much cooler than the 125 when I was running hallides over it. There is no way I can do a chiller for a while, so I'm going to try a fan over the sump and one over the fuge. As the last resort, I'll just have to hold off on anything light demanding and leave the hallides on restricted schedules until I can get a chiller.
If anyone has something I forget to check or an idea that I've completely spaced, please feel free to chime in here.
I'm a little concerned over the heat of the tank right now. With no lights the temp balanced out at 79 degrees last night and this morning. I turned the VHOs on for a few hours this afternoon, plus the heat of the wetroom jumped to 76 while I was at work and raised things to 80.5 in the tank. I'm not 100% certain that the AC JR is correct though. If I stick my trusty floating theometer that I've had for 10 years in it, it reads about 1-1.5 degrees cooler.
But back to the point, I'm concerned that once the halides are going and the lights are running full durations, the temp is going to spike way higher than I anticipated. It's the heat from the pumps that I think I failed to anticipate enough. The headspace over the top of the tank from the lights seems much cooler than the 125 when I was running hallides over it. There is no way I can do a chiller for a while, so I'm going to try a fan over the sump and one over the fuge. As the last resort, I'll just have to hold off on anything light demanding and leave the hallides on restricted schedules until I can get a chiller.
If anyone has something I forget to check or an idea that I've completely spaced, please feel free to chime in here.
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heres a link to a good way to calibrate your temp sensors,
http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2779&highlight=Ice
hope that helps some.
Nick
http://www.zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2779&highlight=Ice
hope that helps some.
Nick
nbd13: Thanks. I think I still have a calibrated digital thermometer from when I was doing appliance repair on the side, I just have to find that silly thing...
melev: Do you think a fan over the tank is better than the sump or fuge?
The good news is that right now the room has been warmer than it usually is, because we have the ac off. The room probably got up to 79 or 80 today rather than the normal 72-74. I'll have to play with things over the next few days. I may go ahead and run normal cycle tomorrow with the lights and see if a couple fans do the trick... I guess the reality of troubleshooting the details has set in:lol: May be pushing the AC Jr to the technological X-max.
melev: Do you think a fan over the tank is better than the sump or fuge?
The good news is that right now the room has been warmer than it usually is, because we have the ac off. The room probably got up to 79 or 80 today rather than the normal 72-74. I'll have to play with things over the next few days. I may go ahead and run normal cycle tomorrow with the lights and see if a couple fans do the trick... I guess the reality of troubleshooting the details has set in:lol: May be pushing the AC Jr to the technological X-max.
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I don't have any fans in my fish room any longer because the new sump lowered the tank temperature dramatically. I keep the room at 78F with a window a/c.
A few days ago, our weather was finally in the 70's (for one day only), and I left all the doors and windows open. The tank temperature rose to 83.5F because I had no fans to move the MH heat off the water. So I do need fans if I use a breeze, but don't need any if the a/c unit is running. Last winter I kept the room at 80F I think, and it worked out nicely.
Fans should go where they are needed. If you need them over the sump due to space constraints or sound issues, then go for it. However, blowing the surface of the water cool is easy and works for me just as well.
A few days ago, our weather was finally in the 70's (for one day only), and I left all the doors and windows open. The tank temperature rose to 83.5F because I had no fans to move the MH heat off the water. So I do need fans if I use a breeze, but don't need any if the a/c unit is running. Last winter I kept the room at 80F I think, and it worked out nicely.
Fans should go where they are needed. If you need them over the sump due to space constraints or sound issues, then go for it. However, blowing the surface of the water cool is easy and works for me just as well.
GregM779: Yeah i'm going to give it a try. If I can figure out the drain and make that work, I'm sure we can find a solution to the heat
nbd13: The humidity shouldn't be an issue. The tank is for the most part sealed from the room and I have ample ventilation for that. I also have enough air turnover in the wetroom to vent the humidity out there as well. I just need to hook up the humidistat
nbd13: The humidity shouldn't be an issue. The tank is for the most part sealed from the room and I have ample ventilation for that. I also have enough air turnover in the wetroom to vent the humidity out there as well. I just need to hook up the humidistat
Before I turn in and sleep on this issue I thought I would post a positive. I did put one baseball sized live rock and "Sydney the snail slayer" (My dwarf zebra hermit with an insatiable taste for snails) in the tank. He's seems to be on a long march toward freedom, walking circles around the tank, but doing quite well. I'm not certain he knows he's still being held captive...
Despite the minor troubles I'm going to be buttoning some things up in the morning and shooting to add the remaining 100+ lbs. of live rock and livestock here in the next few days
Despite the minor troubles I'm going to be buttoning some things up in the morning and shooting to add the remaining 100+ lbs. of live rock and livestock here in the next few days
melev: thanks for the reply, you snuck in there last night in between posts and I missed it. I've been tinkering and I think that 1, the flow from the sump got knocked down too low, the water in thw sump was like 77 and the tank was 80.5. So I cranked the return back up and things dropped from 80.5 to 79.6 in like five minutes. That, the fans and a few other things I hope will take care of business I'll be working on it today and tomorrow for sure.
Thanks again
I'll be working on it today and tomorrow for sure.Thanks again
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