And so it begins

I knew about Disney's Mainstreet USA (go figure) but also enjoyed the color aspect as well.

I never have thought about that aspect before.

There is always something to learn huh?
 
Yeah, he gives a good talk and his presentation has great pictures with is always a plus.
 
Well I just measured out the tank and marked the spots using painter's tape and dental floss.

Curious to see if things appeal to me more or less now.

Also I copied this into Kasey's Kube thread in the nano section.

Thanks again Tyler.

Oh is/was there a third installment to this series?
 
Well they say nothing ventured nothing gained.

I read the articles above. Pretty interesting and you should read them.

I marked off the points with painters tape and dental floss.

I removed the right rock and cut off the top so now it is a flat piece on the floor. I was able to move the left rock over to the center.

This rock is now pretty much in line with the left point both by length, depth, and to a lesser degree height.

It has really opened the tank up and I think I will come to like it. I will do some more work over time until I am happy with a final product.

The right point of interest is the left side of the powerhead box so that worked out well.
 
Morning Mike, I am still tagging along. What a great thread. So tell us, what has been your greatest challenge in this journey and what have you learned as a result of it?

Thanks man:thumbsup:.

Mooch
 
Hey Mooch. Hope you are doing well.

Let me think about my answer while I work on my house today and I will let you know.

Thanks.
 
Thank you.

Years ago I and another reefer bought some tubs from him. His heat pack failed killing the entire frag. He replaced the entire thing for free which I always thought was pretty cool.

FYI this was when people sent you 20 to 30 polyps and called them a frag.

Today people would call that a mini-colony.

Those were good times! Better: the real deal!!
You would never see a solitary polyp for sale in a white plug!!

Grandis.
 
Yeah, he gives a good talk and his presentation has great pictures with is always a plus.

Yeah, there are some basic rules that our brain reads.
Some of the rules came to our attention years ago with the amazing planted fresh water tanks (Amano style).
Those articles have some very good info and help!!

But it's aways good to see different personal approach too.:rollface:

Thanks for the articles, Beaun!! :thumbsup:

I wouldn't do exactly as KafudaFish did, but I still appreciate his tank and I call it "mini tide pool style".
It's a good example of what can be done in a tiny tank.

Grandis.
 
Yeah, there are some basic rules that our brain reads.
Some of the rules came to our attention years ago with the amazing planted fresh water tanks (Amano style).
Those articles have some very good info and help!!

But it's aways good to see different personal approach too.:rollface:

Thanks for the articles, Beaun!! :thumbsup:

I wouldn't do exactly as KafudaFish did, but I still appreciate his tank and I call it "mini tide pool style".
It's a good example of what can be done in a tiny tank.

Grandis.

I like that term and I think I will use it from now on. I was going for a take a piece of ocean out and put it in a glass box. My only problem is now I want to figure out how to implement a tide cycle. (Maybe next time.)
 
Morning Mike, I am still tagging along. What a great thread. So tell us, what has been your greatest challenge in this journey and what have you learned as a result of it?

Thanks man:thumbsup:.

Mooch

Challenges:

In the beginning having to figure out what I really wanted and more importantly figuring out how to do it. I spent a huge amount of time thinking things over. I could picture what I wanted, drew it out and even then things changed. I worked with the dimensions of the tank instead of figuring out how to make something fit. The build was a slow one but I enjoyed each step of the way and if I had an issue or felt like I should just do whatever I stopped and walked away. I would come back later and things would fall in place. I felt like I was working in reverse order or using a negative.

The next one was resisting the urge to change which zoa I used. At first I thought it was a brown out of purple hornets but as you can see it wasn't that morph. I had picked that one because I liked it. Other possibilities were tubs blues, eagle eyes, and zombie eyes. Why? Tubs are a standard and have withstood the test of time and I have failed at keeping them on more than one occasion. Eagle eyes because they have stood the test of time as well and are easily picked out from across the room. Zombies because who doesn't like zombies?

I still don't know the color morph, or where it originated from so if anyone knows I would like a heads up.

Finally I have been thinking about those adjectives that we reefers like to throw around when discussing a "œsuccessful" tank. I still have not figured that definition out but maybe I will one day. The two biggies are patience and stability no matter the size or type of system.

It is human nature not to have patience especially in this technological day and age. Have a question? Get your phone out and soon you will have 9 million answers to choose from. Some are correct and some not so much. I still find it interesting that someone 8000 miles away from me has the same interests as I do and is excited about this. Because these things are at our fingertips seems that we are having an uphill battle. Get a tank, fill it with everything you want, watch it grow, and now what? Upgrade. Too much work? Downgrade "¦"¦"¦

Also one of the traps we fall into seems to be he or she is successful so I want to know what is being done? Oh ok I will too. Then things don't work out as planned and then what?

This leads me into that third biggie at least for me: flexibility.

I have been thinking about that lately and started an oldest tank thread wanting to see what people who have had the same tank for 5, 10 or even 40 years had to say. It should come as no surprise that the system will improve over time: great color and growth, no problems and on cruise control and other times no matter what we do we cannot catch a break.

We get into the habitat of if everything is golden then we must be doing everything right. But that brings up the question: Do I continue doing what I am doing day in and day out hoping for the best or do I start looking ahead and trying to figure out what steps I can take to ensure my continued "œsuccess".

I have been looking at my tank with a critical eye for the last few months and something was not right so I took a chance last Friday and cut out one of my rocks and placed the top section on the floor. This really opened the tank up and now provides me the opportunity to see the details of the back wall instead of it being obscured by the one rock that was not really working out. This tied into the golden ratio and a few other areas that I have been interested in over the years but have failed to utilized. Am I following it perfectly? Probably not but I am glad I did what I did.

My tank is pretty stable or at least it is through my eyes. I get some algae, which is a normal part of a healthy system, I can keep it in check, and I get new growth each month so my corals are telling me that things are within a standard. So what do I do if my current husbandry practices begin to fail to maintain my simple system? Seems like I should be looking at new methods right?

The last thing (sorry this is winded) is I have learn to have a better understanding of my system and to let my eyes be the judge of what is going on today. To be honest I do so many things that would be considered going against the grain but for me they work. Each of us should ask what we want out of the hobby and how do we get there.



Now ask the question again in September and I will probably have a different answer.
 
Awesome Mike, thanks, and stop being so hard on yourself. This is a great thread indeed and you've done some great work here.

You shared a lot and you had a lot of question marks after your sentences. Were you solicting a reply, or just saying? Is it ok if I reply? Nothing bad, maybe just a few tips and some encouargement :D

BTW, you learn a lot about a reefer when he writes as much as you did. I enjoyed reading it bro, thanks. :thumbsup:

Mucho
 
Awesome Mike, thanks, and stop being so hard on yourself. This is a great thread indeed and you've done some great work here.

You shared a lot and you had a lot of question marks after your sentences. Were you solicting a reply, or just saying? Is it ok if I reply? Nothing bad, maybe just a few tips and some encouargement :D

BTW, you learn a lot about a reefer when he writes as much as you did. I enjoyed reading it bro, thanks. :thumbsup:

Mucho

Thank you for the words and the support.

It looks like I am being critical on myself and probably am to a degree (another part human nature) but another thing that I forgot to mention on what I have learned is how to relax and enjoy this hobby.

If I came home today and the system had crashed I would be :sad1: but I would also take it as a learning experience and try and figure out why it crashed and what I could do to be a "better" reefer.

I think too often we are caught up into the numbers and if those don't match what everyone else is doing then we are doing things wrong and cannot have any chance of success.


I appreciate my tank and enjoy it instead of waiting for the next big thing to come along in the hobby.

:debi:

I also decided to listen to myself. Most days I can walk, chew bubble gum, and add 2 + 2 together without too much difficulty yet I was acting like this hobby was something north of building a system for NASA.

This really is a simple hobby yet we make it more complex than needed sometimes. But the moment you think you know it all is the moment you are setting yourself up for failure.

So please post any comments both good and bad you wish Mucho. I am here to learn just like everyone else and hope that others benefit as well.

:thumbsup:
 
great thread Mike once again,
We are always questioning ourselves because have a tank is not exact science. every tank is different. I think the best thing about our hobby is time. Everyone always running around trying to get this and that, but just taking the time an let everything grow and develop is what I like. seeing a new head grow here and there. Having a problem with the system and figuring it out and learning form it. I think most hobbyist do not appreciate exactly what they have in their our tanks.
 
great thread Mike once again,
We are always questioning ourselves because have a tank is not exact science. every tank is different. I think the best thing about our hobby is time. Everyone always running around trying to get this and that, but just taking the time an let everything grow and develop is what I like. seeing a new head grow here and there. Having a problem with the system and figuring it out and learning form it. I think most hobbyist do not appreciate exactly what they have in their our tanks.

Hey there again. Thanks for stopping by. I looked and it was a year ago on the 11 you visited. :beer:

I think you summarized it very well about how we should approach the hobby.

I see this hobby as a marathon and not a sprint and I hope that I have more time to enjoy. I know that money and space are limiting factors. Love ya honey! I have 3 kids and each of them has an interest as well. My daughter started around 3 when she told me THAT is my fish and she has a 55 in her room. I can't get her to give up those goldfish though.

My older son has a pair of clownfish (because they are orange and he calls them clowns not Nemos btw) and I hope that he takes them off to college one day.

My youngest whose hand is pictured above helps whenever I work on the FOWLR tank and I have to hide the fish food since he enjoys that part. He even likes to feed the sump too.

It is also pretty cool to be at a public aquarium and hear another kid ask a parent what is that and your child can answer. :spin3:

Those things that I am most interested in probably would not make the top 100 interesting points of the hobby but that is ok because I know that others feel the same way. I saw new polyps last night and thought that was pretty cool then I saw some hair algae and I figured not so much but I won't sweat it since I know I can remove it at any time plus I figure it is helping with keeping my system balanced.






So make sure to stop by the second week of March 2013 and we shall chat again (though you don't have to wait that long).
 
Started building a small skimmer for the tank just for the heck of it.

Just like the rest of the build I raided my fish closet and various locations throughout the house for parts.

I had everything I needed except pvc parts that came to a grand total of $3.04.

I would have taken pictures but my camera is 600 miles away taking a vacation at Disney World.

I made it so I could break it down and I will take pics in a week.
 
I looked and the skimmer is working. The bubbles are reaching the top but I have not collected anything yet. I don't think that is too bad considering I just put it in my display to dirty it up until I could make a sump for it.

I do have one small leak from the top that will get fixed later on.
 
I used original magic eraser on my tanks last night and it did a great job cleaning. You have to use the original ones not the ones for kitchen or bath due to chemicals in those. I cut a slim piece off and ran it over the glass. When it ran smoothly I knew the glass was clean but if it scooted across I could see algae and did another pass.

Also the magic eraser trapped the algae and kept some/most of it on the pad and it was rinsed out in the sink vs. just releasing it into the water column.

This was the first time I cleaned my glass since my water change.

Also I am getting some algae on the rocks that I will need to address at my next water change with H2O2.


I was going to take pics of my skimmer but I cannot find the work camera. Figures.

I put it online on Sunday and last night I had collected around 4 oz of dark green tea skimmate. I had a protein film on the water surface and now that is gone. I think that is pretty good considering I don't have any fish in the 5.5 and it was just sitting in the tank on some rocks.

I will make an external sump for it and will play with it at some point. I also need to find a place for my mangroves. Another one has finally leafed out.

This month's count will be over the weekend so we shall see.
 
Left wall (45) 50
Top off (33) 41
Left rock (155) 170
Right rock (268) 320
Lower rock (64) 64
Left floor (71) 71
Shell (10) 12
Center floor (55) 56
Right rock 86 (112)
Powerhead (14) 17




total (801) 913
change (218) 112

Back floor 0 these were fragged out for new locations
Right wall (9) 10
Rock (36) 36




Total (847) 959
Change (224) 112




left lower wall (16) 16
front floor (16) 16
mangrove (1) 1 but fully expanded
PH curve (1) 1 very small and kind of just hanging on
back wall lowest tunnel (8) 8

Total 1001
Change 112


These numbers are (3.2.12) and today's numbers so the time between counts was just over 3 weeks compared to around 4 for the others.

Did my WC early this month and I decided to add a sump to hold my Titmice 38D skimmer that I built for an out of pocket expense of $3.04 and parts from my fish cabinet.

The sump is from a food container that was a left over and out of pocket expense for that was 65 cents for the 90 degree elbow I needed for the bulkhead so it would flow back into the tank.

Take care everyone.
 
Mike, I keep visualizing you sitting there with a pointer or pencil counting each polyp. :wave:

Good job man.
 
Thanks and you are close.

I take out the rocks and look for natural sections of the mat and then count those and move onto the next and so on.

I should take 3 counts and take the average but I figure it is all a wash in the end. I do recounts on the smaller ones say in the 40 range just to check and I usually get the same count again or am off by 1.

Pretty soon my two largest ones will be joined as one and will probably have to combine them into a single colony though I can still tell which polyps belong to which one at this time.

I try and count as fast as I can but I do make sure to count every polyp on the rock.

This is much easier than having a collection effort of stream fish with 4 or 5 species and having 100+ specimens for each one since the polyps pretty much just sit there and behave.
 
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