Anemone question
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Newsmyrna80
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No. Is something irritating it? Too much water flow or not enough? How is it's lighting? How long have you had it and how did you acclimate it?
addictedreefer
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Testing for alk is an absolute must. Low ph is likely due to low salinity which is keeping alk levels down. I think the main issue here is salinity. 1.022 is unacceptable for a reef tank. You need to start topping off with salt water until you get in range.
geckoejon
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first.... the second pic looks more like a long tentacle nem then a bta, imo. have a look at the orange foot 
maybe the pic just makes it look funny??? has it been kind of blowing around and not settled? how long have you had it? i would dig a small hole in the sand next to a rock, and place it's foot into it. then use a few small stones to make a little wall around it until it attaches. how long has your tank been running? did you acclimate it to the led's or just put it in full bore?
second... addicted reefer, while i personally try to keep my salinity a little higher than 1.022, i don't agree with your statement of " 1.022 is unacceptable for a reef tank". i have read of several successful reefers on this site that keep it in that range and have done so for years. lower salinity does not necessarily mean low ph/alk either. i always cringe when people try to state their opinions as facts....
p.s. i don't test for alk in my tanks haven't in close to a year either. lol not saying that's the route everyone should go, but i think some people chase numbers to the point of losing sight of what is really important. sometimes it might have to do with chasing numbers, and sometimes it might be something altogether different....
maybe the pic just makes it look funny??? has it been kind of blowing around and not settled? how long have you had it? i would dig a small hole in the sand next to a rock, and place it's foot into it. then use a few small stones to make a little wall around it until it attaches. how long has your tank been running? did you acclimate it to the led's or just put it in full bore? second... addicted reefer, while i personally try to keep my salinity a little higher than 1.022, i don't agree with your statement of " 1.022 is unacceptable for a reef tank". i have read of several successful reefers on this site that keep it in that range and have done so for years. lower salinity does not necessarily mean low ph/alk either. i always cringe when people try to state their opinions as facts....
p.s. i don't test for alk in my tanks
haven't in close to a year either. lol not saying that's the route everyone should go, but i think some people chase numbers to the point of losing sight of what is really important. sometimes it might have to do with chasing numbers, and sometimes it might be something altogether different....
addictedreefer
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first.... the second pic looks more like a long tentacle nem then a bta, imo. have a look at the orange foot
second... addicted reefer, while i personally try to keep my salinity a little higher than 1.022, i don't agree with your statement of " 1.022 is unacceptable for a reef tank". i have read of several successful reefers on this site that keep it in that range and have done so for years. lower salinity does not necessarily mean low ph/alk either. i always cringe when people try to state their opinions as facts....
p.s. i don't test for alk in my tanks
First, I would like to see evidence of anyone maintaining a healthy reef (LONG TERM) with a salinity of 1.022 or lower. In any event, it is certainly not advisable to do that.
Second, if you read my post correctly, I said thet the low ph is LIKELY due to the low salinity - not stated as a fact, but only an opinion, so I pray this may alleviate your "cringe."
Third, alhtough I agree you should not "chase" numbers, it is simply reckless and irresponsible not to test alkalinity in a reef tank for a year. That sir, is certainly cringeworthy. Reinforing OP's failure to test alkalinity with that anecdote is not productive.
sorry it is a LTA. and he has attached. ive had him for a week. he attached or i put him on a rock, and then he shriveled up and moved and still remains shriveled up.
i didnt acclimate him to lights i just put him in there and used the lights as usual. the lights are 165 w LED's.
i didnt acclimate him to lights i just put him in there and used the lights as usual. the lights are 165 w LED's.
geckoejon
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lanman08, does the lta still have it's insides bulging out like the first pick? if so, it might have healthy issues. if it's just shriveling, then it might be something as simple as it getting more light then it's used to. if it's staying put, and not spitting out it's guts, then i would let it acclimate to the light. you might try dialing back the lights and ramp them up a little each week to let it get used to them. i had to with my first lta. you never did mentioned how long your tank had been going.
addictedreefer, feel free to scan through the forums. i do and i read much more that i post. i saw a similar post where a couple reefers piped up. heck, i have read several articles that stated salinity should be 1.020 to 1.026. personally i am for keeping mine between 24-26.
just because something works for you doesn't mean that it is the only way. i read a lot of dogma on this site. some people are very quick to get cocky and criticize someone when they come one here for help. you didn't even notice that the nem was identified wrongly, and you want to jump down his throat stating your ideas of absolutes???
in this case, i seriously doubt that would be the cause of the lta shriveling up. many reef shops and distributors even keep their salinity at lower levels than the op's for various reasons. (cost, reduce ich, ect...)
actually, the alk comment was for you and not the op, because of your "absolute must" statement. personally, i tested mine weekly for quite awhile. i got to the point that it was testing within my idea of acceptable levels on a very regular basis. any more, i test if something seems to be out of order.
the op came on here asking for advice on a nem that is not doing well. why not get off your high horse and not talk down to him?
addictedreefer, feel free to scan through the forums. i do and i read much more that i post. i saw a similar post where a couple reefers piped up. heck, i have read several articles that stated salinity should be 1.020 to 1.026. personally i am for keeping mine between 24-26.
just because something works for you doesn't mean that it is the only way. i read a lot of dogma on this site. some people are very quick to get cocky and criticize someone when they come one here for help. you didn't even notice that the nem was identified wrongly, and you want to jump down his throat stating your ideas of absolutes???
in this case, i seriously doubt that would be the cause of the lta shriveling up. many reef shops and distributors even keep their salinity at lower levels than the op's for various reasons. (cost, reduce ich, ect...)
actually, the alk comment was for you and not the op, because of your "absolute must" statement. personally, i tested mine weekly for quite awhile. i got to the point that it was testing within my idea of acceptable levels on a very regular basis. any more, i test if something seems to be out of order.
the op came on here asking for advice on a nem that is not doing well. why not get off your high horse and not talk down to him?
thanks geckojon... i agree there are plenty of people on here quick to jump down others throats. I come on here for help and to talk about things... notto be criticized.
Back to the topic- the anemone is not letting anything off at all. i actually just picked up some buffer at the store and added it to the tank since the pH was a little bit low. The tank has been set up for 3 months. Im hoping the lighting suggestion might be true since he was thrown right under 165 watts of LED after being in the LFS. Im assuming I will continue to monitor him for any weird behavior and I will not put my lights up so high for the next few weeks. I also added some trace elements so hopefully that will help the whole tank.
Back to the topic- the anemone is not letting anything off at all. i actually just picked up some buffer at the store and added it to the tank since the pH was a little bit low. The tank has been set up for 3 months. Im hoping the lighting suggestion might be true since he was thrown right under 165 watts of LED after being in the LFS. Im assuming I will continue to monitor him for any weird behavior and I will not put my lights up so high for the next few weeks. I also added some trace elements so hopefully that will help the whole tank.
addictedreefer
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Although you are correct that alkalinity need not be tested weekly, OP here has suggested that he had never tested alkalinity and has no idea what his values may be. As you pointed out, you regularly tested alkalinity until you knew that your levels were consistently in range. That is very much different from OP, and my advice is not a high horse position - it is common sense and fundamental husbandry. As for salinity, Mother Nature speaks for itself. Average sea surface salinities in the reef are consistently in the 1.025 to 1.027 range, and, as you admit, you keep your own reef in that range. Citations to in unidentified anecdotal experiences with lower salinities are not convincing. It would be foolish not to suspect the lower salinity as a potential culprit here and my advice to raise salinity is certainly sound.
geckoejon
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i was reading a thread about this rc memeber successfully keeping a gig between 1.022 - 1.024 for several years. refer to post #46. this is well below the above stated acceptable limits. imo, this looks like a very healthy gig....
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2192395&page=2
i know i have read numerous other people stating that they successfully stayed in those ranges as well. i didn't note every post as i have read them over the years though. i just thought i would mention this as one of many supposedly "unidentified anecdotal experiences" so far i have not seen any proof that having lower salinity in the ranges mentioned above would have any negative consequences. just because the majority of people do it that way doesn't mean that it's the only way to do it.
while i have no doubt that there is a wealth of knowledge to be shared, i just wish some people would be more conscious about how they share it. i'll leave it at that.
sorry for hijacking your thread op. any updates and pics? did you try to acclimate it to the led's?
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2192395&page=2
i know i have read numerous other people stating that they successfully stayed in those ranges as well. i didn't note every post as i have read them over the years though. i just thought i would mention this as one of many supposedly "unidentified anecdotal experiences"
so far i have not seen any proof that having lower salinity in the ranges mentioned above would have any negative consequences. just because the majority of people do it that way doesn't mean that it's the only way to do it. while i have no doubt that there is a wealth of knowledge to be shared, i just wish some people would be more conscious about how they share it. i'll leave it at that.
sorry for hijacking your thread op. any updates and pics? did you try to acclimate it to the led's?
addictedreefer
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i was reading a thread about this rc memeber successfully keeping a gig between 1.022 - 1.024 for several years. refer to post #46. this is well below the above stated acceptable limits. imo, this looks like a very healthy gig....
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2192395&page=2
i know i have read numerous other people stating that they successfully stayed in those ranges as well. i didn't note every post as i have read them over the years though. i just thought i would mention this as one of many supposedly "unidentified anecdotal experiences"
while i have no doubt that there is a wealth of knowledge to be shared, i just wish some people would be more conscious about how they share it. i'll leave it at that.
sorry for hijacking your thread op. any updates and pics? did you try to acclimate it to the led's?
The post you cite states that aquarist's salinity is approximately 1.0237, not 1.022 as OP here. That too is testing the bounds of tolerance IMO. 1.022 is outside of those bounds. In any event, to point to a handful of examples of success with unnaturally low salinities is not productive. It would be analogous to argue that it is ok to run around an empty field during a lightning storm with a lightning rod strapped to your head just because a few people did it and survived. The sound advice here is to raise salinity.
