Angel in SPS tank experience

gooberz

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Hello,

I was wondering if any of you have had good luck in keeping a Juvinile queen Angel in a SPS tank without issues of nipping or eating your SPS? I know its a 50/50 chance but was thinking of trying to getting a very small juvinile queen angel and giving it a shot? Your thoughts?

Henry
 
I have a queen angel in my 210rr sps tank and no problems. Keep the queen fed well is the key to success.
 
I have an adult Emperator in my SPS tank. I raised him from a juvenile and have grown very attached to him over the years. He is inteligent, beligerent, and he causes a lot of damage. He didnt nip at all for years but as he has matured he has become quite the little terror. He is a pet. He is in a 325 gallon loaded sps tank and every thing works since the tank is so big. My point is this. I would be broken hearted and this fish would be devastated if i moved him out of this tank. Right now, he rules the world. He is master of his domain. When he swims around he fears nothing. You can see it in his demeanor.
4 years ago, i moved him from my 180 into his new digs he was so stresed i couldnt hardlty stand it. When i started moving coral and he saw the rocks get moved he went and hid under a rock and just trembled. Before you put a potentially large angel into your tank please make sure you can keep the fish even if he becomes a nipper. The stress to you and the fish from moving and disposing of him because he has out grown your tank is substantial.

Understand that it is normal for adult angels eat coral. If you are going to get one dont you want it to act as close to normal in your tank as it can? If we are going to keep one shouldn't we make the commitment up front to accept that its normal for them to eat corals. Is it right to hope that they might not act normal when they grow up? Angelfish can live up to 20 years , they eat corals and they grow large. Rather than "hope" the fish wont eat corals, why dont we accept the resposibility that it will and if we are going to get one, then commit to providing the environment the animal needs for its entire life. Just because we like kittens doesnt mean we just take them to the pound when they turn into cats does it?
 
I have an adult Emperator in my SPS tank. I raised him from a juvenile and have grown very attached to him over the years. He is inteligent, beligerent, and he causes a lot of damage. He didnt nip at all for years but as he has matured he has become quite the little terror. He is a pet. He is in a 325 gallon loaded sps tank and every thing works since the tank is so big. My point is this. I would be broken hearted and this fish would be devastated if i moved him out of this tank. Right now, he rules the world. He is master of his domain. When he swims around he fears nothing. You can see it in his demeanor.
4 years ago, i moved him from my 180 into his new digs he was so stresed i couldnt hardlty stand it. When i started moving coral and he saw the rocks get moved he went and hid under a rock and just trembled. Before you put a potentially large angel into your tank please make sure you can keep the fish even if he becomes a nipper. The stress to you and the fish from moving and disposing of him because he has out grown your tank is substantial.

Understand that it is normal for adult angels eat coral. If you are going to get one dont you want it to act as close to normal in your tank as it can? If we are going to keep one shouldn't we make the commitment up front to accept that its normal for them to eat corals. Is it right to hope that they might not act normal when they grow up? Angelfish can live up to 20 years , they eat corals and they grow large. Rather than "hope" the fish wont eat corals, why dont we accept the resposibility that it will and if we are going to get one, then commit to providing the environment the animal needs for its entire life. Just because we like kittens doesnt mean we just take them to the pound when they turn into cats does it?

I wish more poeople thought like this. I believe its really about the size of the tank. A large reef can handle a little taste sampling by an angel, amed to small one can't period.
 
re: success with large Angel & SPS

re: success with large Angel & SPS

IME it's not just the size of the aquarium that matters.

I've seen Emperors and Queens destroy corals and/or develop stunted growth in aquariums greater than 200 gallons.

My Emperor (now an adult) is fine in my 220 but a healthy adult Queen would require 300+ gallons easily IMO.

Queen Angels get very large.... if kept healthy and grown out properly :)
 
I agree 100% with Dog Boy Dave. I think we sometimes all forget what fish naturally want to do in the wild and what they are capable of eating. If you are gonna get an angel just know there is always a chance. If you don't feed them enough they are natually gonna start looking for food. That goes with any fish.
 
Thanks For all your replies guys. I will stay away from the angels and leave them for the Fish only tanks.

Thanks Again,
Henry
 
Hi, I've got an médium sized imperator and xanthometopon in a 125 gal SPSs dominated tank. They use to nip, but corals are all ok as they have time to recover. Keep then well fed.
 
I raised an Emperor from a tiny juvenile till full adult size. Perfect citizen for many years until one day, something triggered the urge of nature, it demolished half the tank of LPS, zoas and SPS.

It was very well fed constantly - and gave no warnings/clues that it would happened. Just came home to coral skeletons one day.

That's what they do in the wild, that's what they will do. You accept the risk but you should know that it will one day eat your corals regardless of how many other people reporting no problems.

I knew the risks and still chose to keep it as it was a wonderful prime focal fish. I backed up my corals in frag tanks and with friends to counter against the loses.
 
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