Angler Questions

[SkullV]

I am transferring my NanoCube into a "dual nano" system which will use 2 Mr. Aqua Cubes and a common sump. The top tank is a display reef and the second tank is a "display refugium" I want to keep an angler in the refugium. Specifically I am interested in the "painted angler" but first I have 3 basic angler questions:

1. Can I keep any kind of angler in a 25g cube for life
2. Will the angler eat pods/worms/etc and ruin the idea of the refugium?
3. Can I keep an angler in an open top tank?

 

[DoubleM 10]

I am transferring my NanoCube into a "dual nano" system which will use 2 Mr. Aqua Cubes and a common sump. The top tank is a display reef and the second tank is a "display refugium" I want to keep an angler in the refugium. Specifically I am interested in the "painted angler" but first I have 3 basic angler questions:

1. Can I keep any kind of angler in a 25g cube for life
2. Will the angler eat pods/worms/etc and ruin the idea of the refugium?
3. Can I keep an angler in an open top tank?

1. yes yu can keep an angler in a 25 gallon as a species only

2. no it will NOT eat pods worms

3. personally i would not keep any fish in an open top tank. i think an angler would be ok.

 

[SkullV]

1. yes yu can keep an angler in a 25 gallon as a species only

2. no it will NOT eat pods worms

3. personally i would not keep any fish in an open top tank. i think an angler would be ok.

Thanks for the info. Looks like the angler will be a good choice for the Fuge. It HAS to be open top in order for the mangroves to grow out.

 

[jmasterdiver]

1. Yes. A. nummifer or A. coccineus would be particularly well suited, but A. maculatus or A. pictus would work (or H. histrio). Be careful when choosing an angler. They are often mis-id'd and you can wind up with one that will be about the size of a football when grown. Then a 25 would not work for life.

2. Anglers should be fed like many other pred species. Two or three times a week, preferably a variety of frozen fare.

3. They can climb or jump out of a tank. However, I have kept them in open tanks without issue. H. histrio is probably more likely to jump than other species.

 

[SkullV]

Are the species you mentioned poisonous? I only ask because on the off chance it did jump I'm sure my dog would take immediate interest in it.

1. Yes. A. nummifer or A. coccineus would be particularly well suited, but A. maculatus or A. pictus would work (or H. histrio). Be careful when choosing an angler. They are often mis-id'd and you can wind up with one that will be about the size of a football when grown. Then a 25 would not work for life.

2. Anglers should be fed like many other pred species. Two or three times a week, preferably a variety of frozen fare.

3. They can climb or jump out of a tank. However, I have kept them in open tanks without issue. H. histrio is probably more likely to jump than other species.

 

[jmasterdiver]

I don't know that they are poisonous, but I also don't know that they aren't. As a matter of course, I generally make sure my dogs can't get to anything tank related when I am not looking, because I always fear them getting sick from eating a fish or something. I think the cases of them leaving a tank are pretty rare, but it is a good thought.

 

[Bongo Shrimp]

I don't know of any true anglerfish that is venomous in the sense of having a spine. As for your dog eating it, that might be another story.

 

[SkullV]

I don't know of any true anglerfish that is venomous in the sense of having a spine. As for your dog eating it, that might be another story.

That's what I mean, the actual flesh being poisonous like a puffer.

 

[namxas]

As far as I know, anglers aren't poisonous. We've kept a few of them, but really haven't heard anything in our research of them. As mentioned, H. histrio (sargassum angler) would be the most likely species to jump from a tank since this is a natural behavior of theirs in the wild (they leap onto sargassum rafts to escape danger, and flop back into the water after awhile).

 

[SkullV]

Alright, so what is the scientific name of this angler:

and will it ok for life in a 25g tank? (70ish gallon system)

 

[jmasterdiver]

That looks like A. maculatus to me. It would work fine in a 25, maxing out at about 5" or so.

 

[SkullV]

Perfect, are they difficult to find and are they ok in copper (I QT everything before it goes into DT after losing a battle with crypt)?

 

[SkullV]

So does this species change colors or do you purchase it like that. I can only find Red and Yellow ones.

 

[jmasterdiver]

IDK for sure off the top of my head on the copper. I have never used copper on a frogfish. Maybe someone who has can chime in (or someone who knows if you shouldn't).

A. maculatus are commonly available. So are some of the other species mentioned. It pays to shop around, and to be confident in your id when you purchase.

 

[SkullV]

IDK for sure off the top of my head on the copper. I have never used copper on a frogfish. Maybe someone who has can chime in (or someone who knows if you shouldn't).

A. maculatus are commonly available. So are some of the other species mentioned. It pays to shop around, and to be confident in your id when you purchase.

Where are they commonly available in the "red/white" color scheme?

 

[Bongo Shrimp]

DO NOT BUY FOR COLOR! ALL ANGLERS CAN AND (most likely) WILL CHANGE COLOR!

The above also goes for seahorses FWIW.

 

[SkullV]

DO NOT BUY FOR COLOR! ALL ANGLERS CAN AND (most likely) WILL CHANGE COLOR!

The above also goes for seahorses FWIW.

Alright, well that answer's my question then. So if I buy one of the Red or Yellow ones there is a chance that it will change to the photo above, and a chance that it will not?

Anyone have any insight into the QT with copper?

 

[Bongo Shrimp]

Yep, there's a 50/50 chance. He could change, or not, or a little.

 

[jenn33426]

Alright, so what is the scientific name of this angler:

and will it ok for life in a 25g tank? (70ish gallon system)

Looks like a wartskin angler. I am going to get one in a few mnths when my new tank it ready. Look on liveaquaria.com.