Another option for red bugs

The 10ml is/was highly effective. That will be the dosage I utilize for my new tank. I ended up shutting down my 120 for a myriad of reasons - AEFW being one of them.

I have an 8g running now that will serve as my QT for all new coral. I will hold them for six weeks in there and dip every five to six days utilizing the 10ml per 1/2 cup dosage.

I plan to cut all bases off and throw them out or buy only fresh cut frags. This should ensure that I remain pest free.

Best advice is to QT everything you buy.
 
jasimek said:
I just used interceptor spectrum on my tank and lost nothing in the tank other than a cleaner shrimp that I forgot to take out. Tank looks much better after using it
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Has anyone else used spectrum for an in tank treatment? I just used my last pill of interceptor and although the heartworm ingredient is the same, I wasn't sure if the added flea medication would have adverse effects on the tank inhabitants.
 
3 weeks post treatment and haven't lost anything other than the peppermint shrimp I forgot to take out when I dosed the spectrum. Clam, anemone, fish and corals all doing well. No sign of any red bugs at all
 
flamron said:
The 10ml is/was highly effective. That will be the dosage I utilize for my new tank. I ended up shutting down my 120 for a myriad of reasons - AEFW being one of them.

I have an 8g running now that will serve as my QT for all new coral. I will hold them for six weeks in there and dip every five to six days utilizing the 10ml per 1/2 cup dosage.

I plan to cut all bases off and throw them out or buy only fresh cut frags. This should ensure that I remain pest free.

Best advice is to QT everything you buy.
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If you are cutting off plug and/or only get fresh cuts are you quarantining because you believe eggs may still be on frag
 
Where did you find interceptor spectrum? Did you purchase it from an Australian website (all I could find on google)? I've called several vets and none have heard of it. One vet said the FDA didn't approve it for the US and recommended Sentinel but when I told them it was for a fish tank, he said oh I'm not sure about that then

Thanks
 
WARNING:

Well, I used 80ml in 1 Gallon of Display water for 15min and i lost 1 Red Planet colony, 3 pocillopras, 1 incredible hulk acro. I mean, gone, complete tissue necrosis. Some that i took at 10 min still have tissue damage although the polyps come out some. The millies at 15min look damaged, the millies at 10min lost colorr but tissue and polyps are ok. My priced Oregon tort colony ok after 10 min (that was scary!). Yes, flatworms dead at bottom of container but too cloudy to take a good look.

I used SPRAY "Bayer Advaced Home Pest plus Germ Killer" from Home Depot in SOuth Fl. Ingredients listed are: Sodium phenylphenate 0.30%, cyflutrin 0.05%, other 99.65%.
Can someone clarify please? What am I doing wrong? All i can think of is i shook the colonies pretty well when rinsing them in clean display water. I might have bruised the tissue? My dose doesnt seem high? Am I using the right product?

because at 10ml per 1/2 cup water, that comes out to 320ml in 1 gallon of water! MUCH more than the 80ml per 1 gallon I used with FATAL results.

I know, i know, i didnt really need to dip the pocilloporas but i thought i was using a conservative dosage and it turns out they were the most sensitive corals, with the lowest survival rate.

Please your thoughts.
 
15 min is a really long dip time! More than enough time for the water to cool quite a bit as well, if the room was cooler than tank water. Could have added to the coral's stress.
 
flamron said:
The 10ml is/was highly effective. That will be the dosage I utilize for my new tank. I ended up shutting down my 120 for a myriad of reasons - AEFW being one of them.

I have an 8g running now that will serve as my QT for all new coral. I will hold them for six weeks in there and dip every five to six days utilizing the 10ml per 1/2 cup dosage.

I plan to cut all bases off and throw them out or buy only fresh cut frags. This should ensure that I remain pest free.

Best advice is to QT everything you buy.
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Hopefully, this clarifies some of the confusion​
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1.) Remove frag from plug or rock and observe the frag for eggs or anything unusual, if in doubt, get rid of the frag. No frag is worth the contamination. Bayer insecticide does not kill AEFW eggs
2.) Dip 5-15 minutes at 10ml of Bayer Insecticide per 1/2 cup of tank water, rinse in clean cup of tank water once or twice afterwards to remove residue Bayer
3.) It is an insecticide, be safe and utilize appropriate precautions. Don't smell, taste or touch the insecticide and use a well ventilated room.
4.) Only use the following pictured Bayer Insecticide for this procedure at these recommended dosages
5.) Whisperer and Flamron are remarkable for their contribution and should be commended by all of us for their breakthrough


 
I dip mine for 15 min all the time without problems. You used the wrong product. See the above post for picture of the correct stuff. The germ killer is totally different. I think it does work but at totally different dosage.
 
watchguy123 said:
Hopefully, this clarifies some of the confusion​
:

1.) Remove frag from plug or rock and observe the frag for eggs or anything unusual, if in doubt, get rid of the frag. No frag is worth the contamination. Bayer insecticide does not kill AEFW eggs
2.) Dip 5-15 minutes at 10ml of Bayer Insecticide per 1/2 cup of tank water, rinse in clean cup of tank water once or twice afterwards to remove residue Bayer
3.) It is an insecticide, be safe and utilize appropriate precautions. Don't smell, taste or touch the insecticide and use a well ventilated room.
4.) Only use the following pictured Bayer Insecticide for this procedure at these recommended dosages
5.) Whisperer and Flamron are remarkable for their contribution and should be commended by all of us for their breakthrough


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10ml per 1/2 cup was too strong for my deepwaters (lokani and such) they now RIP.
 
I'm not going to go through the whole thread and dig up my differing treatments, but, after many different trials, I settled on the following concentration:

4 mls/Liter for 15 minutes. (1 liter = 4.2 cups)

This is a far cry from the 10 mls per 1/2 cup (0.12 liters) I see some using. That seems to be a bit much. I'm guessing some corals might be able to handle it while others perish.

But, as Whisperer noted very early on - this product likely has a very wide theraputic range. In fact, when treating now, I am no longer diligent to get exactly 4mls - sometimes it's 5 mls, sometimes 3mls, or somewhere in that range... Ya know, just like grandma use to cook - a handful of flour here, one "dose" of vanilla there, and you get an amazing pie... :)

Good luck everyone.

Cheers
Mike
 
Here's my experience for what it's worth. I used 5ml per litre ,and water was cloudy, of the pictured product above . It knocked aefw off the corals but these took several hours to die left in dip solution. It also knocked monti-nudi's off the corals but DID NOT kill them despite my initial thoughts. They survived for two days in un-heated dip! It did help as I was able to get the nudi's off the coral in areas I couldn't reach but not a cure, just an aid. I had no idea I had any aefw but had recently treated for red bugs and as some say there seems to be a coincidence that after interceptor spectrum there seems to be a aefw bloom in thier tanks. I was trying to kill monti nudi's and thought I would give it a shot even though there are no reports of it working.
 
Yes it is a weak solution but was going slow to start as the corals I was dipping have been growing for a at least a year and did not want to take too big a risk. I did add more to the dip that the monti-nudi's were in and even at 20ml per litre they survived.
 
Ive noticed even at 5ml per1/2 cup aefw still move but the reason this dip works is because makes them let go and with repeated dipping to get the new ones as they hatch but before they lay more eggs you can get rid of all those pests. Red bugs just seem to die first dip. But if you put the corals back in tank you may get reinfection because the parasites are on the rocks near as well and can reinfect
 
I would use Sentinel.

I do a routine treatment on my 125G full reef tank. I don't have red bugs but I can say it is reef safe. I have used Sentinel 3X on my 125 Full Mixed reef with Clams/BTA Anemones/Cucumbers/Snails/Feather dusters...I had zero issues...nothing died except my pods.

I highly recommend this as a substitute for Interceptor. Actually it did a better job! Usually interceptor will leave some pods alive that I can find, but this stuff annihilated all my pods...I put my emerald crabs back in after treatment with zero fatalities.

Highly suggest spreading the word on this as the next go to pest treatment.

Lufenuron is the other chemical in Sentinel. It is a Chitin inhibitor, which makes it much more effective. It is also used to treat fish lice in Koi Fish.

1 Large dog pill should treat 400 Gallons.
 
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