Another option for red bugs
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tektite
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Some others have mentioned similar issues earlier in the thread when putting pests like AEFW and monti eating nudis back into tank water after the bayer dip. But even if the bayer dip didn't kill them outright at certain concentrations, it at least stuns them so they fall off of the monti which still makes bayer a great removal tool.
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I'm going to run a few more tests at some stronger concentrations with small frags. To dip the colony I'm trying to clear up I need to mix up 5 gallons of saltwater. There are many places in the colony I cannot see or get a baster in to blow things out. This is why I was really looking for dead Nudibranchs.
Dustin1300
Reefaholic
Anyone tested this on Goniopora yet? I just picked up a descent sized colony and need to start my 4 week dipping process on frag QT I filled up Friday
I've tested this on hundreds of frags and colonies now and cannot say I've had a loss due to the dipping. I dip in Bayer twice during my qt period of 6 weeks and only behavior I notice is some loss of color due to the multiple dippings (Bayer, CoralRX, Revive, Iodine, Flatworm Exit, and Bayer dip before moving to grow out tank).
I've tested this on hundreds of frags and colonies now and cannot say I've had a loss due to the dipping. I dip in Bayer twice during my qt period of 6 weeks and only behavior I notice is some loss of color due to the multiple dippings (Bayer, CoralRX, Revive, Iodine, Flatworm Exit, and Bayer dip before moving to grow out tank).
Dustin1300
Reefaholic
Thanks, that's what I like to hear! I usually do a 10 minute dip in 10mL of bayer complete formula - concentrated to 1L of water.
coralreefdoc
New member
Your intuition is correct in regards to the red bugs "hiding", bkoo ... However, it isn't quite accurate in regards to location. Tegastes acroporanus, those little red bugs that are a pain in the anus to Acropora, hide within the corallite structures where they are essentially immune/impervious to the Imidacloprid/other coral dips ... This is why multiple, detailed/quality dipping procedures are necessary for their complete removal
henrystyle
Member
IMO. I do believe that a full tank treatment is necessary if you have red bugs in your display already. It is insane to believe that these tiny bugs can be killed and eradicated by just dipping your sps colonies. If one or two get off the colony (which is bound to happen) you will have a re-infestation. Bayer is the way to go for all new coral additions and interceptor for the whole tank treatment. (if you can find some)
henrystyle
Member
The Bayer you can get anywhere, its the interceptor that is the problem.. I don't know of any alternative. Maybe someone else knows of something.
The original Bayer the OP posted:
The only thing I found was this:
I did use the one in the second pic, but did not see anything come off of the corals. Therefor I am not certain that it works.
I did call Bayer, and inquired about the complete, and was told that it is up to the individual stores as to which one to carry. Also they are definitely not the same product.
AdamDeMamp
New member
I've been dealing with Planaria flatworms for a few months now. I found that the Bayer treatment did not kill them off completely. They came back and are going HAM. I have also found that CoralRX nor Revive kills them, it just ****es them off. I found that using hydrogen peroxide (3%) kills them in seconds. I have gotten rid of my AEFW so I can't confirm if they kill them. I used ~ 1:5 ratio (h-p:sw). I plan on doing a full tank treatment if Flatworm exit doesn't work. I will keep you posted on that.
I would try it. It's cheap and highly effective. What do you have to lose at this point? Did you know that it gets rid of all types of algae too?
I would try it. It's cheap and highly effective. What do you have to lose at this point? Did you know that it gets rid of all types of algae too?
Thanks for the info.!
coralreefdoc
New member
Halichoeres melanurus will decimate a red planaria outbreak/issue/problem within a matter of days, there's no need to go chemical in that/this situation ...
Ensure that your system specifications are feasible/ideal for the inclusion of an H. melanurus, however. I.e. sandbed, length, etc. !
Ensure that your system specifications are feasible/ideal for the inclusion of an H. melanurus, however. I.e. sandbed, length, etc. !
coralreefdoc
New member
Halichoeres melanurus will decimate a red planaria outbreak/issue/problem within a matter of days, there's no need to go chemical in that/this situation ...
Ensure that your system specifications are feasible/ideal for the inclusion of an H. melanurus, however. I.e. sandbed, length, etc. !
Ensure that your system specifications are feasible/ideal for the inclusion of an H. melanurus, however. I.e. sandbed, length, etc. !
elmexotics
Member
I tried this tonight and all I can say is WOW!! I had a few frags with no polyp extension and now I know why. I watched the bugs and worms Jump off. Thanks for testing this and figuring it out. my tank is going to be much happier now.
cFloor
New member
I just came across about 60 frags from this guy whose tank crashed. All different types of acros and a few monti's, unfortunately the acros have red bugs. I'm planning on putting them though a 2 month QT process with weekly dips of Bayer Advanced Complete Insect Killer and I'll most likely do a few dips in Revive as well.
I'll be using 20 ml per cup of saltwater as discussed in this thread for 5-7 minutes at a time.
I'm very nervous about doing this, and I guess I'd like to know if you guys would do them all at once, 20 at a time, or just a few at a time. thanks in advance for the help. Some of the frags could be very nice and I really am concerned about dipping so many in a day.
any thoughts? This is my first experience with these pests.
I'll be using 20 ml per cup of saltwater as discussed in this thread for 5-7 minutes at a time.
I'm very nervous about doing this, and I guess I'd like to know if you guys would do them all at once, 20 at a time, or just a few at a time. thanks in advance for the help. Some of the frags could be very nice and I really am concerned about dipping so many in a day.
any thoughts? This is my first experience with these pests.
