<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12898924#post12898924 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by phenom5
A simple first post.
And this quickly turned into...
The. Worst. Thread. EVER.
Please lock & delete this thread. Politics have no place on this board.
No...I don't. Mother nature is doing just fine on her own destroying the reefs and the rest of the world without our help.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12898574#post12898574 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by mrkalel
So I guess you also believe that you are also destroying our reefs?...
:lol: He's got you there aslavatortin. What are you some sort of Neanderthal? :rolleye1:<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12898726#post12898726 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Tang Salad
Also, you really shouldn't modify an adjective with an adverb. (Although, I suppose it's a bit poetic to present incorrect information by using incorrect grammar
I agree. And I apologize for my part in it.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12898987#post12898987 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aslavatortin
+1, get rid of this mess
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12899756#post12899756 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by archie1709
There are no toxin-producing factories, industrializing China, industrializing India, nuclear reactors, and non-biodegradable trash "eons and eons ago" either. So to think that we don't need to be stewarts of the planet we live in because the planet heals itself is so wrong a mentality. Sorry. There are so much ecological damage happening because of China and India right now and they are not vetting on any renewable source.
Sorry for being political but our hobby is in the center of the environmental cause. Whatever happens to the coral reef (negatively) will impact the rest of inhabitants in this planet (negatively).
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12900194#post12900194 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by MinnFish
This is better than all the presidential debates .
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12899962#post12899962 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aslavatortin
Speaking of green and subsidies, look at what the ethanol program has caused; world food crises, riots, sky-high prices. There is a happy medium between a polar bear's rights (ANWR) and $4.00 a gallon and I think it's high-time we found it!
Yes, the bleaching events are due to a combination of factors that we don't fully understand and can't always predict. However, what we do know is that the major events have gone from a once-a-decade occurrence to almost every other year. Regardless of the causes, just within the past 3 decades, the frequency has rapidly accelerated to the point that corals are almost at their limits of recovery. That's very alarming since as far as we know, this isn't something that's happened before, but it's come on hard and fast in recent years.greenbean36191- What were some of the causes of the most prominent historical mass bleachings? Wasn't it a combination of factors that were relatively intangible- and oftentimes unexplainable?
I'm not sure what you mean by changes in the tide. During periods of elevated temp, variations in water motion such as extremely high or low tidal ranges definitely influence whether a reef will experience stress. Over historical periods though I don't know of any significant alteration of tides. As of yet, measured changes in sea level have been too small to see any measurable damage to reefs, but if the predicted rate of rise occurs, many reefs will certainly drown.I know the Maldives got hit hard about 4 years ago. In your research did you find that tide changes are also a significant culprit in the decline of a reef?
I think most reef biologists would agree with you. On its own, warming is probably a survivable event for corals. They have significant ability to adapt to increased temperatures and provided they can still rapidly calcify and recruit to open space they would likely be able to keep up with rising sea level. The problem is that that's not the future we're looking at. We're looking at one where growth is slowed due to disease, bleaching, and conditions unfavorable for calcification. Combined with the removal of the dominant herbivores and nutrification, algae are creating and dominating space. This isn't just some hypothetical situation either. It's something that's been going on for at least a few decades now. It's just a question of how bad is it going to get.I know that global warming (whatever the cause) is the hot topic, but I don't think it's the main reason behind the declining condition of corals. The article mentioned ocean acidification, and article in this month's "Discover" magazine further discribes that for more than 600,000 years the oceans ph has been 8.2. Since the industrial revolution in 1800, the ph of the ocean has become 30% more acidic due to the absorption of man-made CO2 (at a rate of 22 million tons a day and rising) By the end of the century it's predicted the ocean's PH could drop as low as to 7.8, and all the way down to 7.3 sometime next century. These finding are relatively new, and haven't really attracted the publics attention yet, but i think that this is the most significant danger to corals, as well as many other forms of oceanic life.
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12901257#post12901257 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Macocoffee
BTW America is the number one producer of CO2...i think its about time we stop being so hypocritical...
-Mac
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12901638#post12901638 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by aslavatortin
Uhhh, no we aren't...It took me three seconds on a yahoo search to find this: China number one CO2 producer
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12898853#post12898853 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by greenbean36191
Corals just haven't been the dominant reef builders and within the near future they're likely to lose that title to algae.