Another Venustus Thread

Not a deal with the success rate. They might be ok for other stuff, but not Venustus. Just one mans opinion though.
 
Do you run a skimmer on your multibar tank? I have a deltec ap 600 on this tank. Perhaps the high oxygenation might be contributing to my success. I did not have that with the first three

Still don't have the skimmer up for the 65g tank with the male, found out that a bolt was stripped and still haven't gotten around to getting one. The QT with the new one only has an HOB filter as of right now.
 
Good to hear your Venustus are all doing well for you Matt. Anything different this time around you think other than the water changes twice a wk?
 
The addition of a hefty skimmer. I hate to say it, but I think the success of these fish is almost entirely related to just getting lucky and getting some great stock in.

Wish I could point to something else...
 
Nope, no skimmer on the quarantine before. Around Christmas this past year I ordered a rainfordi and a dusky butterfly from DD/LA and was feeding a lot of clams, so I decided a skimmer was a must have.
 
NLS, not tried any others. I'm truthfully not typically a pellet person, but I had some of these laying around and figured i'd give it a try.

I'll be excited when the cupramine treatment is over, 10 more days...

Then two rounds of prazi, maybe three and into the DT they go!
 
My LFS had a Venustus for sale for $55; so of course I couldn't resist. It's was sort of eating in the store. Nice size too; around 2 1/2 inches.
 
Nice! Feed often, mine took right to the LRS foods. My little one was picky and only liked cyclopeeze for a while, but now eats mysis and LRS eagerly.

Cupramine treatment finished today, they handled 0.5 without any issue at all.
 
Good deal Matt, glad they came through it oK. Mine just finished hypo and I'm slowly bringing the salinity up as we speak. He's eating well and as ready as he's gonna get to go into the DT after the salinity comes up and one more round of prazipro. He's in QT with a P. Attenuatus and P. Octotaenia, I'm so happy that all three did well with hypo.
 
Great news Brett. How many rounds of Prazi did you do? Did they handle that treatment well?

I typically dose, wait five days, do a WC, wait five days and then dose again, eventually doing three doses on that interval . Not sure if that's overkill or not. The bottle says to not dose more than every three days. I was considering shortening up my interval .
 
Has the third treatment of Prazi shown to add any stress on fish in QT?? If not its a good thing! An (extra) ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, lol, as the saying goes...

I usually do just 2x treatments of 6-7 days, then water change, carbon and skimmer, and 72 hours later a second treatment of 6-7 days, after removing carbon, skimmer. If I need to do a WC in the middle of a treatment, I re-dose for the amount removed.

Glad to hear that they handled Cupramine!!! Thats super scary, as I've lost too many Dwarf angels to copper based meds.
If you dont mind sharing how slow the ramp up and the duration of the treatment was?
Thanks !
 
Has the third treatment of Prazi shown to add any stress on fish in QT?? If not its a good thing! An (extra) ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure, lol, as the saying goes...

I usually do just 2x treatments of 6-7 days, then water change, carbon and skimmer, and 72 hours later a second treatment of 6-7 days, after removing carbon, skimmer. If I need to do a WC in the middle of a treatment, I re-dose for the amount removed.

Glad to hear that they handled Cupramine!!! Thats super scary, as I've lost too many Dwarf angels to copper based meds.
If you dont mind sharing how slow the ramp up and the duration of the treatment was?
Thanks !

I took eight days to get to effective concentration. I would dose half the recommended amount, and then wait 48 hours.

I will plan to do the three treatments of prazi, my understanding on the timing is more related to catching the flukes at the right point of their life cycle.
 
Great news Brett. How many rounds of Prazi did you do? Did they handle that treatment well?

I typically dose, wait five days, do a WC, wait five days and then dose again, eventually doing three doses on that interval . Not sure if that's overkill or not. The bottle says to not dose more than every three days. I was considering shortening up my interval .

I normally do two rounds of prazi five days apart. These fish were treated once and handled it well, then I had to treat for ich and never got to do another round. I'll probably do two rounds before they go to the DT. I'm not in any hurry cause the little angel eats better and better everyday. He's eating pretty much everything now and competes with the two wrasses well but competing with my regal angel is gonna be a little harder for him.
 
Matt- Thank you for sharing that with us! As for targetting the flukes lifecycle, I was under the impression that the second treatment after 3-4 dYs of clean water was to target any larvae that may have not been effectively eradicated during the first round?
The reading ive done has centered around flukes within the Phyla of Monogenea.
Another question, hopefully you dont mind! Do you mix your own praziquantel powder or do you use PraziPro?
Thanks!
 
Hey Gris,

Don't mind at all on the questions. I tried mixing my own praziquantel powder and found it nearly impossible to disolve. Water does nothing, I tried vodka, but that didn't really do a great job either, so now I just buy the Prazipro product.

Totally agree about getting the second batch of flukes, it's just the timing I'm not sure on.

Judging by my fishes reaction to the treatment, it seems to me that the medicines effects wear off after several days. The only fish that I have ever really see it affect is my Rainfordi butterfly. For the first two days, it swam around aimlessly and breathed heavily, but after the third day, it had returned to normal and started eating again.

My schedule is as follows:
Day 1, Treat at recommended dosage.
Day 5, 50% water change.
Day 10, Treat at recommended dosage.
Day 15, 50% water change.
Day 20, Treat at recommended dosage.
Day 25, Big water change, regain skimming.

This is for all my fish, not just necessarily the Venustus. I have yet to start this treatment on them as they just came out of cupramine, though I may start it tonight or tomorrow. I did a big WC on their system and put carbon on, so once the cupramine is gone I should be good to go.

The intervals have always been a big questions mark for me. I'd love to hear Ted or Newsmyrna comment on this as I think they are some of the resident Quarantine and diseases treatment experts.
 
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