keefsama2003
In Memoriam
I know i dont have any fish to offer right now but count me in for anything needed
Any interest in organizing?
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spk
Premium Member
Folks,
Firstly compliments of the season to you all.
Secondly, www.marinebreeder.com. This is the url that we need to use. I also have www.marinebreeder.info also parked to the same server.
Thirdly, some time ago, several weeks or so, I asked a similar question to this one and got very little response. Perhaps I should have posted on the rareclowns forum.
However the good news is that there seems to be some interest.
I have a blank forum to play with too:
http://marinebreeder.com/yabb/
feel free to register.
Can also supply email addresses too.
Thanks
Steve
Firstly compliments of the season to you all.
Secondly, www.marinebreeder.com. This is the url that we need to use. I also have www.marinebreeder.info also parked to the same server.
Thirdly, some time ago, several weeks or so, I asked a similar question to this one and got very little response. Perhaps I should have posted on the rareclowns forum.
However the good news is that there seems to be some interest.
I have a blank forum to play with too:
http://marinebreeder.com/yabb/
feel free to register.
Can also supply email addresses too.
Thanks
Steve
spk
Premium Member
Matt, et al,
Sorry was working on this last night and broke all my links.
if you go to www.marinebreeder.com there are a number of links off of that and these will grow. I have just changed the board that i was using.
A link to the Forums is www.marinebreeder.com/forum .
Thanks
Steve
PS: Still early days so let me know what you all need.
Sorry was working on this last night and broke all my links.
if you go to www.marinebreeder.com there are a number of links off of that and these will grow. I have just changed the board that i was using.
A link to the Forums is www.marinebreeder.com/forum .
Thanks
Steve
PS: Still early days so let me know what you all need.
mwp
In Memoriam
David, Um, yeah, I'm on "probation", fine, I'll say why.
I listed my Batch VIII in the tank raised livestock selling forum. You all know I have but 2 larval rearing tanks. You all know I needed one of them to Quarantine my fish. I was in a jam, the babies needed a new home ASAP.
The post was yanked (I placed it in the CMAS forum as well, as I wasn't willing to ship 17 day old clownfish so I needed to find someone local), and I was admonished for being a commercial seller. I was already admonished by a few bad apples in the CMAS forum for asking $75 for an 8 stalk colony of Red Sea Xenia...apparently Xenia should be given away for free, and my asking price made me "commercial" or something. WHATEVER. IT's my freakin' rock of Xenia and I wanted $75 for it, take it or leave it. There's Xenia in the selling forums right now for over $100 for a small frag (different, rarer type, but you get my point). I have not doubt someone from that Xenia argument brought my clownfish post to a mod's attention and asked that I be scolded.
All fish breeders whether businesses or a guy with 2 tanks are apparently considered "commercial sellers". That's an "unspoken, unwritten rule". I didn't buy that argument for 1 second and argued back. That earned me probation.
Hence I may be leaving and taking all my posts and pics with me unless I get some restitution. I pay to host all my own pictures...RC is getting to display my content that I pay for them to display. According to the user agreement, MY posts are MY property, they display them with my "approval" basically. Which means, if things don't get sorted out for all us fish breeders, I'm going to ask that all my posts be removed as I will be recinding my permission for Reef Central to display my writings.
I really hope that the folks that own and run RC will reconsider their position. This IS the best resource for marine breeders, but it's very clear to me that WE are the ones who've made it that way. We deserve equal and fair treatment. We're not getting it.
I've simply asked that they either explicity disallow the posting of ANY captive bred fish in the selling forum (that's a 1 minute sticky post to make) OR they reconsider their stance and make some changes. I've also asked that I receive an apology from the mod in question and that my full access be restored.
I've heard NOTHING back since last night, but I realize folks do have other obligations than to deal with a raving lunatic like myself.
Hence we need to get this going or I'm gonna have to set up my own
Matt
I listed my Batch VIII in the tank raised livestock selling forum. You all know I have but 2 larval rearing tanks. You all know I needed one of them to Quarantine my fish. I was in a jam, the babies needed a new home ASAP.
The post was yanked (I placed it in the CMAS forum as well, as I wasn't willing to ship 17 day old clownfish so I needed to find someone local), and I was admonished for being a commercial seller. I was already admonished by a few bad apples in the CMAS forum for asking $75 for an 8 stalk colony of Red Sea Xenia...apparently Xenia should be given away for free, and my asking price made me "commercial" or something. WHATEVER. IT's my freakin' rock of Xenia and I wanted $75 for it, take it or leave it. There's Xenia in the selling forums right now for over $100 for a small frag (different, rarer type, but you get my point). I have not doubt someone from that Xenia argument brought my clownfish post to a mod's attention and asked that I be scolded.
All fish breeders whether businesses or a guy with 2 tanks are apparently considered "commercial sellers". That's an "unspoken, unwritten rule". I didn't buy that argument for 1 second and argued back. That earned me probation.
Hence I may be leaving and taking all my posts and pics with me unless I get some restitution. I pay to host all my own pictures...RC is getting to display my content that I pay for them to display. According to the user agreement, MY posts are MY property, they display them with my "approval" basically. Which means, if things don't get sorted out for all us fish breeders, I'm going to ask that all my posts be removed as I will be recinding my permission for Reef Central to display my writings.
I really hope that the folks that own and run RC will reconsider their position. This IS the best resource for marine breeders, but it's very clear to me that WE are the ones who've made it that way. We deserve equal and fair treatment. We're not getting it.
I've simply asked that they either explicity disallow the posting of ANY captive bred fish in the selling forum (that's a 1 minute sticky post to make) OR they reconsider their stance and make some changes. I've also asked that I receive an apology from the mod in question and that my full access be restored.
I've heard NOTHING back since last night, but I realize folks do have other obligations than to deal with a raving lunatic like myself.
Hence we need to get this going or I'm gonna have to set up my own
Matt
mwp
In Memoriam
Oh, the one other difference between someone selling 40 different frags vs. the private marine fish breeder. On the ODD chance that we're actually SUCCESSFUL in our progation efforts (which by all accounts is a FAR MORE DIFFICULT acheivement, but equaly important for the future of our hobby), the private fish breeder will assuredly find themselves OVERRUN with fish that have to go somewhere. It's not like I can put my juvie clowns back into the tank with their parents.
If I was "commercial", I wouldn't be letting batch after batch of Onyx Perculas (with their retail value of $70 a shot) go unraised. And I would have had the common sense to abide by the official rules and NOT POST the post I posted...
Additional Edit - one more "if I was commercial" - well, if I was commercial I wouldn't be selling off 80 fn F1 onyx percs at $2.50 per fish, at ANY age.
Matt
If I was "commercial", I wouldn't be letting batch after batch of Onyx Perculas (with their retail value of $70 a shot) go unraised. And I would have had the common sense to abide by the official rules and NOT POST the post I posted...
Additional Edit - one more "if I was commercial" - well, if I was commercial I wouldn't be selling off 80 fn F1 onyx percs at $2.50 per fish, at ANY age.
Matt
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Kmiec123
Actual CMAS Member
Has anyone seen Matt's "commercial" set up? That's funny!!! The only Commercial fish breeder in the country with three tanks in a condo.. 
.Sorry to hear of your trouble Matt. I hope you can get the issues resolve because I really appreciate your input to this "HOBBY".
.Sorry to hear of your trouble Matt. I hope you can get the issues resolve because I really appreciate your input to this "HOBBY".Matt, where ever you go, you have our support at RMI
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with the board. It can be a head ache, I know I too have been labelled as a commercial and banned for a day. All because I wrote a ertemelly glowing report of SDC. I was labelled as working for them, even though it's a 6 hour journey 1 way for me :lol: Luckily RC has some really good mods in the midst, adnt hey helped me out. Hopefully some will come to your aid 
I'm sorry to hear about your troubles with the board. It can be a head ache, I know
I too have been labelled as a commercial and banned for a day. All because I wrote a ertemelly glowing report of SDC. I was labelled as working for them, even though it's a 6 hour journey 1 way for me :lol: Luckily RC has some really good mods in the midst, adnt hey helped me out. Hopefully some will come to your aid
mwp
In Memoriam
MWP's Commercial Marine Breeding Enterprise
MWP's Commercial Marine Breeding Enterprise
That's right, the mods on Reef Central Got me. I'm about to put every last darn ORA and TMC and LA.com out of business unfairly by not being a forum sponsor and by breaking the rules and posting "commercial" listings. Everyone last one of us fish breeders afterall, is commercial. Joe L, David M, Kathy55g, Ediaz, I'm putting you all out of business with my sale of 79 17 day old onyx percs!
Well, without further delay, especially for the all the good folks here at Reef Central, here's MY UBER COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE!
Office, Part I - Broodstock System #1 to the left (the system with the ICH outbreak). Broodstock & SPS System #2 to the right (and please note the breeder net containing 80 healthy 18 day old nitrate factories in the SPS system, and I wonder why I can't propagate SPS's!)
Office, Part II - Quarantine Facilities, Larval and Grow Out Facilties, Phytoplankton and Zooplankton culture facilties. Note the Allardi and Black Ocellaris pairs - these are currently in quarntine
Broodstock System #3 - please note the blue thing in the lower right...we like to take a nap once in a while when working on the job, hence we felt a bed was required. I apologize for the salt streaks on the front of this system...you know how it goes when you're busy running a commercial fish breeding operation
Growout System #2 - Again, note the extra nice touches in the vicinity of this growout system. A bed, reading lamp, nightstand and alarm clock. These special touches are what make this operation the over the top success that it is!
I have 2 full time employees. The first one is Tucker. He's responsible for culling my broodstock and taking water samples in the SPS system.
Our other employee is Alice. She handles daily field trips, janitorial duties, as well as marketing and company morale. Notice the vintage hardwood floors that blanket our facility...these are ESSENTIAL to the success and ease of maintenance in any legitimate Commercial Fish Breeding Operation!
That's the tour!
FWIW,
MWP
MWP's Commercial Marine Breeding Enterprise
That's right, the mods on Reef Central Got me. I'm about to put every last darn ORA and TMC and LA.com out of business unfairly by not being a forum sponsor and by breaking the rules and posting "commercial" listings. Everyone last one of us fish breeders afterall, is commercial. Joe L, David M, Kathy55g, Ediaz, I'm putting you all out of business with my sale of 79 17 day old onyx percs!
Well, without further delay, especially for the all the good folks here at Reef Central, here's MY UBER COMMERCIAL ENTERPRISE!
Office, Part I - Broodstock System #1 to the left (the system with the ICH outbreak). Broodstock & SPS System #2 to the right (and please note the breeder net containing 80 healthy 18 day old nitrate factories in the SPS system, and I wonder why I can't propagate SPS's!)
Office, Part II - Quarantine Facilities, Larval and Grow Out Facilties, Phytoplankton and Zooplankton culture facilties. Note the Allardi and Black Ocellaris pairs - these are currently in quarntine
Broodstock System #3 - please note the blue thing in the lower right...we like to take a nap once in a while when working on the job, hence we felt a bed was required. I apologize for the salt streaks on the front of this system...you know how it goes when you're busy running a commercial fish breeding operation
Growout System #2 - Again, note the extra nice touches in the vicinity of this growout system. A bed, reading lamp, nightstand and alarm clock. These special touches are what make this operation the over the top success that it is!
I have 2 full time employees. The first one is Tucker. He's responsible for culling my broodstock and taking water samples in the SPS system.
Our other employee is Alice. She handles daily field trips, janitorial duties, as well as marketing and company morale. Notice the vintage hardwood floors that blanket our facility...these are ESSENTIAL to the success and ease of maintenance in any legitimate Commercial Fish Breeding Operation!
That's the tour!
FWIW,
MWP
mwp
In Memoriam
Yup, I know, part of being on "probation". No access to email any of you thorugh the "mail" link, no access to my PMs or to sending PM's, no access apparently to posting anything in any of the selling/trading forums etc. Funny, but there's no mention of "probation" in the RC literature, not how you get on it, how you get off it etc....
Matt
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