Anybody got a Peppermint Angel... Centropyge Boylie

where's the guy that said he just had 20 altogether in a tank and was going to sell them?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6773135#post6773135 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LisaD
where's the guy that said he just had 20 altogether in a tank and was going to sell them?

hmmm,
never heard of such a gu,
where did you see this?
on RC?
 
more than likely he is. i have only seen 1 peppermint angel ever and it was a dead specimine in a jar.

the person has a good supply of money and says hes been looking for years and has only found the 1 he has now that didnt make it so he pickled the fish.

very strange person but since he can afford the luxory to get what he wants i believe him when he says they are very hard to come by so for someone to say o yeah i have 20 of them in a 120 and they are fine.

ill believe it when he posts pictures and more than likely it will be molts of his shrimp
 
my suggestion is if you are in fact referrig to peppermint angels, chock it up to a cool looking pic in the axelrod atlas and pick something else. you could buy a new car for the price they demmand, not to mention 1 our of every 4 divers dies trying to obtain one of these precious fish. also consider how many have dies from not handleing the tamperature and pressure acclimation well. leave these guys in the ocean, so they will still be there for the next generation to enjoy.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6780778#post6780778 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Petstorejunkie
not to mention 1 our of every 4 divers dies trying to obtain one of these precious fish.

Where does this figure come from?
 
honestly i cant remember, i stumbled upon it over three years ago when i first saw a picture of a peppermint angel and wanted one myself. i did research on them and after much reading and consulting of my colleagues i came to the conclusion not to buy or persue one.
 
Decompression isn't a problem if the fish is pinned properly as it's being brought up. Many deepwater fish are very good aquarium animals.
 
Don't forget that they really don't care for the warmer temps of the tanks that they would be going into.
 
RGBMatt's correct, plenty of deep water fish, properly compressed, make great aquarium fish. This is true of many of the high end wrasses we keep.

What is telling is that the guy the fish is named after, Chip Boyle, and knows where these fish may be, collects on Raratonga in the Cook islands. He obviously ain't shipping a bunch (read pretty much any). They are delicate and are known to not feed in capitivity. He is specializing in deep water stuff like Ventralis, so you know if he felt it was feasible, he would be shipping these fish.

You don't go after these fish at 100+ meters on standard air. You don't even think about it these days. Rebreathers and mixed gas are required. I am guessing that mixed gas and rebreather maintenance is pretty scarce on the Cook Islands, so you probably don't push it too much. I think I read somewhere that Mr. Boyle even had to set up an oxygen generation system to support his exports. I think he supplies the local medical facility and others as well. Even with advanced diving technologies, dives to those depths are not easy. There is also very little time to explore and/or capture. Simple physical exertion at those depths is compounded many fold in terms of the toll on the body and oxygen availability.

What I would love to see is a book written by some of the folks in the hobby who collect the fish we like to purchase and their detailed tales of capture and exploration.
 
Brian collects fish at those depths using re-breathers (I believe down to almost 500 ft.) and dives with Pyle and I think Chip Boyle too. Here is his site. Click on specials on the bottom to see some of the fish they collected just a little while ago. Great guy and great quality.

http://s138267547.onlinehome.us/home.html
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6773135#post6773135 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LisaD
where's the guy that said he just had 20 altogether in a tank and was going to sell them?
You mean Jiggy? i was going to post the link, but K.Tuna beat me to it
 
i dont see why anyone would go down 500 feet on a regular basis.. lol Doesn't seem 'sane' to me. I wouldn't mind going down that far 1-2 times in my lifetime.. :) Fish just aren't worth the risk!!

but the deeper you go, the cooler the fish... tough one!
 
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