Anyone else having issues with their euphyllia?

[nathan1986]

Over the past few months ive been loosing euphyllia. Shortly after heads started dying i upgraded to led (the stock bulbs in the hood were old anyways) and ive also started dosing to keep my levels more acceptable. But im still loosing all my euphyllia except my torch. But all my hammers except my yellow hammer (its slowly dying) and mostly all my frogspawn/octospawn are dead. But my zoas are still growing like crazy. Was just curious if anyone else has experienced what im currently going thru. I know someone will ask for peramaters so ill test that tonight after dinner. But i keep my levels very close to red sea (blue bucket)

 

[Spiralinglotus1]

What are the symptoms? I lost a couple to brown jelly a couple weeks ago

 

[nathan1986]

No brown jelly. They start with not opening fully, then tissue starts to recide then the heads dye one by one until the whole colony is gone. Ive lost probably 7 colonies all together so far, all euphyllia only and no brown jelly

 

[Webmanny]

I've started having similar issues, but I got it under control but reducing the temperature of the heater a bit. I've read that this happens every year around summer. I used to keep my temp at 79, which during the day made it climb to 81 and have now brought it down to 77. With the daily swings, it does not go above 79.5 and the Frog and Hammers look like they are doing better.

Do you have a temp recorder or Controller that can tell you what the temp swings have been in the past few weeks or months?

 

[nathan1986]

Hey manny, i do not have any controllers on the tank. Just a thermometer and a heater. Tank seems to average 78-79 and i have the heater set as close to that as possible. But i have no idea what the swings are while im at work

 

[Webmanny]

If all other parameters are in check, I would say that you need to find a way to find how high the temp gets during the day. This is what was impacting mine. A few questions that may help us confirm this, if in fact this is the issue.

1. What temp do you keep your home while you are away?
2. What does your light cycle look like?
3. What are you dosing, how much and how often?

 

[E Rosewater]

Last year I had a horrible time with Euphyllias. I had some large colonies, some in the tank for 2 years. I would lose part of a colony here a whole colony there, over 6 months I was left with a single polyp of a frogspawn that I had had for almost 3 years, and a few polpys of a hammer colony. Everything else had succumb to Brown Jelly. All in all I lost about 2 dozen pieces. It was soul crushing, I changed flow, I changed salt. I pulled my LEDs out and replaced them with T5s and could never figure out the issue.

I switched over to SPS. Had decent color, decent PE, and decent Growth. I could keep SPS, and softies alive with no problem. Even had (and still have) a good sized elegance, meat coral, cynarias. The problem was always just Euphyllias, and duncans.

 

[Webmanny]

Last year I had a horrible time with Euphyllias. I had some large colonies, some in the tank for 2 years. I would lose part of a colony here a whole colony there, over 6 months I was left with a single polyp of a frogspawn that I had had for almost 3 years, and a few polpys of a hammer colony. Everything else had succumb to Brown Jelly. All in all I lost about 2 dozen pieces. It was soul crushing, I changed flow, I changed salt. I pulled my LEDs out and replaced them with T5s and could never figure out the issue.

I switched over to SPS. Had decent color, decent PE, and decent Growth. I could keep SPS, and softies alive with no problem. Even had (and still have) a good sized elegance, meat coral, cynarias. The problem was always just Euphyllias, and duncans.

Wow that sounds horrible. In this case you are 100% sure it was brown jelly? I have never had that, thank God, but I have heard many horror stories about it. Did you also have issues with temperature changes?

 

[CuzzA]

I'm having a euphyllia issue too. My guess it's from last months municipal chlorine treatment. I just ordered a new carbon block and have made the decision to double up carbon filters on my upgrade.

 

[E Rosewater]

Wow that sounds horrible. In this case you are 100% sure it was brown jelly? I have never had that, thank God, but I have heard many horror stories about it. Did you also have issues with temperature changes?

As sure I could be. All my corals turned into a Brown Jelly Like Substance.

I had a wall hammer about 12 inches across. Lost a small part of it, it was for several weeks, then over 2 days I lost half of it. Then it was fine for a couple weeks. Then lost the rest over 2 days.

That's how it went for 6 months. Over a week I'd lose several colonies or parts of colonies, then it would fine, then I'd lose a few more, then it'd be fine, then I'd lose a few more.

No temperature issues. It was 200 gallon tank so nothing happened quickly.

 

[Spiralinglotus1]

Just came home to find more jelly after a couple weeks of no loss... Hope I'm not going down a dark road. E, how did you get the jelly under control?

 

[E Rosewater]

Just came home to find more jelly after a couple weeks of no loss... Hope I'm not going down a dark road. E, how did you get the jelly under control?

I didn't. I ended up losing everything except for a single polyp of Frogspawn and 6ish polyps of a hammer. I had 4ish colonies of frogspawn, 10ish colonies of Hammer, 6ish colonies of torch, and two or three colonies of Duncan. Never was able to find out what actually happened. It was horrible to watch and not be able to do anything about.

I tried cutting away parts of dying corals, iodine dips, revive dips, coral Rx dips, nothing helped. It was just a slow horrible progression.

 

[Spiralinglotus1]

Great... I've been cutting the dead stuff and I guess I might try "flushing" the system with more frequent water changes. My temps don't fluctuate much so I feel it has to be a water condition.

 

[Spiralinglotus1]

Nathan, you haven't noticed any decaying tissue?

 

[nathan1986]

No decaying tissue. Just receding tissue into the skeleton. Ive talked to some other people and they are losing euphyllia for no reason as well. It really sucks, all my high dollar hard to find colors died first. Im starting to think that what cuzza said is a good thing to rule in as a possible factor.

 

[nathan1986]

And manny the house is kept at 76 both night and day. Ive dosed the tank a few times using esv 2 part. I still havent had time to test the water to give you guys my current numbers, ive been working 10 hour days and just exhausted when i get home.

 

[janes_mw]

When the county notified us that they were "cleaning the pipes", I changed carbon in sump weekly for the past 6 weeks as well as run my RO/DI through a second set of Spectrapure SilicaBuster DI canisters (so yes, two silica busters and two DI's after the carbon from RO). I was watching all the "traffic" on RC and was worried. So far, so good. I too think alot to do with the city water. My ATO uses 2 gallons a day, so definitely was worried. This is soccer ball size.

 

[Webmanny]

And manny the house is kept at 76 both night and day. Ive dosed the tank a few times using esv 2 part. I still havent had time to test the water to give you guys my current numbers, ive been working 10 hour days and just exhausted when i get home.

Man... I'm so sorry to hear this. I know the feeling. I was losing a bunch of corals and decided to give them away instead of watching them die in my tank and later found that I had a bad return pump and a bad batch of salt.

I'm slowly getting things back in order, but I certainly know that sinking feeling you get when corals start to die.

I hope you find the problem and get to save some of your corals.

 

[tony727]

I have about 15 heads on my frogspawn, 4 large and the rest are tiny. All the large ones just died, no brown jelly. They just shrunk and came off the skeleton so I don't know what happened.

The tiny frogspawn heads are fine and are getting bigger.

My gold torch was perfectly fine throughout as well.

 

[snake1]

When the county notified us that they were "cleaning the pipes", I changed carbon in sump weekly for the past 6 weeks as well as run my RO/DI through a second set of Spectrapure SilicaBuster DI canisters (so yes, two silica busters and two DI's after the carbon from RO). I was watching all the "traffic" on RC and was worried. So far, so good. I too think alot to do with the city water. My ATO uses 2 gallons a day, so definitely was worried. This is soccer ball size.

Wow Mike that is beautiful