Anyone Thinking of Dumping LEDS and going back to Halides

No Mesh, I have to keep my heater at 78 to keep the tank from getting too cool, I do have a chiller, it is in the closet where it has been for years. A properly setup system should never need a chiller, unless you are keeping cold water species.
 
I hope you guys don't mind asking for advise here but I have been following this thread for a while and there is a wealth of knowledge here.

After a visit to a locals house I am thinking of doing halides again. I'd like some opinions on how to light the tank I have.

36x36x20
No canopy
Mixed reef mainly want sps and some LPS. Zoas of coarse.
I will supplement with either ReefBrites or BML. prob 2 24" or 30" strips.

I really like the color of 14k Phoenix SE on Lumateks and RB's or Radiums.

Thinking

1. Large 20x20 Hamelton Cozumel Sun with 250w or 400w

2. 2 x 250w either Radiums or Phoenix with a decent reflector.
not sure if this is too much light. I would do a short photo period like my buddies. 4hrs maybe

Thanks for the help and if this is the wrong place I will post a thread.

Kc3

I have that exact same size tank and I use just 1 250w Radium in a 20"x20" LumenArc reflector powered by a M80 ballast. I don't have many SPS at this point but I do have 7 clams and a 7 year old Ritteri anemone that are doing well. I also don't have my rock work right up against the sides. Here is a picture taken with my iPhone and no editing.



I tried a couple of custom D120 led fixtures for several months but I did not like the look as much as the Radium.
 
Chad,
I was just messing around! I have the Reefbreeders photon32 and so far I love it! I ramp them up and down with about 4 hours of high noon. At high noon I am at 50% Blue and 40% white, red and violet.
I am almost a foot above the water. My tank is completely covered on top with 1/2 acrylic covers.
I was running them at 60 and 50 but it was a little too bright. So I backed them back down to 50 and 40. They look to be responding well.
I know the PUR window maybe what the problem was. That's the narrow range in the PAR spread that really excites the Zookzanthellae in the corals.
I am using 95 watts a day for 4 hours, over a 65 gallon growing SPS. I am only in it for 11 weeks, but this fixture is growing my corals better then my 250 watt Radium ever did! No small hot spot either like my Lumenbright gave me.
My tank runs at a constant 76 degrees! We will see how it does when the heat waves start!
So far, I WILL NEVER GO BACK TO HALIDES!!! Sorry, but too many better things with leds. Muliple colors throughout the day, intensity adjustment on the fly, color on the fly, sunrise/sunset, much cooler and much cheaper to run.....
 
oh yea, and my office stays nice and cool now. It was like a sauna in here before with that 250 watt halide!!!!! Anyone want to buy a nice halide set up???? Ice Cap ballast, Lumenbright mini, and 3 used bulbs..........150.00!!!!!!
 
What state are you in meshwheel?

I have 500 watts of halides(actually about 600 with the magnetic ballasts) and the heat form them in the room is never a problem. The only time it would be is in the dead heat of summer when it is in the 90s and very humid.....but a 7,000 BTU AC cools the double parlor(~450-500 square feet) with no problem. The tanks gets to around 84-85, but that is with a sealed sound proofed stand and glass tops. The way some talk, you might think there was molten lava in a reflector about our tanks.
 
Muliple colors throughout the day, intensity adjustment on the fly, color on the fly, sunrise/sunset, much cooler and much cheaper to run.....

Meh......when I had LEDs, both a DIY setup and a reefbreeders setup, it was fun to play with the color....but I ended up choosing a color and sticking with it.

2x250w radiums on a magnetic ballast 6 hours a day costs me about $14 a month. Mere pennies compared to gas, car repairs, interest on my mortgage, etc.....
 
Hi Jim,
I am in Southern California. The summer heat waves where always a problem. But with a chiller its no problem at all. You just have to cool the house a bit more.
I replicate the sunrise/sunset with more blue. Just like in the ocean. I would say I am at a 14K-sh at my high sun time. 4 hours at 50% blue 40% white/violet/red.
So I automatically get different colors throughout the day. Just like in the ocean.
I am pretty darn happy with the Reefbreeders. I will not be changing anytime soon. No reason to. Less heat, less elecricity, more flexability, less money....
 
That's right...I think you have mentioned Southern California before.....the heat and electric rates are far worse there than here.

I tried the reefbreeders...definitely a good fixture for the money....but mine lacked automatic control. You could dial the color in, but it was only off or on as far as contolling the times they were on.
 
The surface of my led's is 80 degrees...........................LOL. But that with 40%blue and 30% whites. Pretty dam cool. Dont try this at home metal halide guys............YOU MAY HURT YOURSELVES!!!! LMOA!!!!!!!!!!!
 
The surface of my led's is 80 degrees...........................LOL. But that with 40%blue and 30% whites. Pretty dam cool. Dont try this at home metal halide guys............YOU MAY HURT YOURSELVES!!!! LMOA!!!!!!!!!!!

Yeah, but over my tank I have 2 points of light with the halides. Leds spread them out over the whole tank, where halides use a reflector for that. Concentrate that 90 watts on a couple square inches and you would be none too happy ;)
 
Jim,
You NEED to try one again with the programmer. It's a whole different deal!!! I can fire up my metal halide and let her warm up and get some temp readings. However, I dont want to embarrass anyone and make enemies!!!!.....LOL
 
Mesh, brother, don't fire up the mh and touch the bulb, we all know it is too hot to touch, it doesnt prove anything. :D

High electrical rates are probably the single best reason to switch to LED's, and if I had to deal with the that I would do the same. Fortunately I do not, my tanks entire electrical consumption ranges between $20 and $25 a month.
 
My tank is also pretty efficient, the total wattage is small and heat is managed exceedingly well. It has taken me a long time to learn how to get the most for the least with equipment and setup. Living 2.5 miles from either of the two hydroelectric dams may be part of the reason the electricity is so cheap here, .08kw this time of year, summer will see it raise to .09, no complaints.
 
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