Apex v Profilux

i have a profilux3 (main unit)and a profilux2 (as a back up)


my profilux has ran perfect since 08 and have bought a back up and has only used it once because of my own fault of loading software wrong
 
Profilux. I had the APEX and found that it was much harder to program (IMO). I had the Profilux up and running in no time at all. Most of the program is built in all you have to do is enter the time, intensity's for e.g. AI lighting, setting up pump control, temp control, PH control was alot easier for me then the APEX. Apex you have to write the comand statements in. Most of this is already built into a shell in the Profilux. As always, IMO.
 
I have been using Neptune Systems controllers since they came out. The Apex is just amazing. For my needs it is perfect, I still like to tinker with my tank so all those automated controls are not necessary, but the Apex can handle any of them. I live in California so turn around time for me is great, a point I considered. Its like comparing a Ferrari and Lamborghini. They both do 200 MPH and have the same performance, it just come downs to which one looks best to you!
 
I have been using Neptune Systems controllers since they came out. The Apex is just amazing. For my needs it is perfect, I still like to tinker with my tank so all those automated controls are not necessary, but the Apex can handle any of them. I live in California so turn around time for me is great, a point I considered. Its like comparing a Ferrari and Lamborghini. They both do 200 MPH and have the same performance, it just come downs to which one looks best to you!

Have u ever had a profilux, I have seen 2 bad apex local.
 
I live in California so turn around time for me is great, a point I considered.

I think he been returning his Apex for rework, unless I missed his point, then I am sorry.

I have no idea how can someone be happy in returning defective parts, doesn't matter if the turnaround is fast.
I buy things that will work and last, not return them.

You have a controller to control and watch over your system, not be in the mail system all the time.
 
I debated between the profilux and apex a while back, but once I figured out that the dosing pump was an important factor I settled on the profilux. The costs could be an important factor as it is definitely one of the pricier controllers on the market, but if the dosing option is important for you, the profilux has the integrated doser which is a great feature.

Either controller you chose, I think you'll be satisfied with. There are pluses and minuses to each.
 
I debated between the profilux and apex a while back, but once I figured out that the dosing pump was an important factor I settled on the profilux. The costs could be an important factor as it is definitely one of the pricier controllers on the market, but if the dosing option is important for you, the profilux has the integrated doser which is a great feature.

Either controller you chose, I think you'll be satisfied with. There are pluses and minuses to each.

Dosing is important to me. I do it by hand now and need something to complete while I'm away for weeks at a time. I also considered the fact that I will be upgrading from a 65 gallon to a 250 or 300 gallon so even more of a reason for the dosing option to dose through out the day instead of one massive dose once a day.
 
If anyone is interested aqua_digital is going to be offering a great P3 starter kit including shipping for $699 starting next week.

If interested contact Michael or myself for details.

This will be a limited offering so don't hesitate.
 
I have no idea how can someone be happy in returning defective parts, doesn't matter if the turnaround is fast.
I buy things that will work and last, not return them.

You have a controller to control and watch over your system, not be in the mail system all the time.

Is Profilux 100% exempt from having defective products? I highly doubt there have not been cases of someone needing to send a unit back in for service.

An Apex controller will not be in the mail "all the time". I have owned Neptune products for something like 8 years, and had one single problem that I needed to send in for, turnaround was a week. Other than that the controllers have not failed me once save for a power surge that corrupted the firmware.
 
Is Profilux 100% exempt from having defective products? I highly doubt there have not been cases of someone needing to send a unit back in for service.

An Apex controller will not be in the mail "all the time". I have owned Neptune products for something like 8 years, and had one single problem that I needed to send in for, turnaround was a week. Other than that the controllers have not failed me once save for a power surge that corrupted the firmware.


I was only questioning his reason for getting a Apex, and thats all it was.
My decision to get a Profilux was based not needing to return it for service, and not how fast I can get one back.

I guess people see things different, that is why it caught my attention.
 
Ok.....But what I quoted you saying does not really sound that way. Neptune controllers are not always breaking down or always requiring service, far from it. The vast majority will probably never need their support for repair.

But I'd still like to know, are Profilux controllers break down proof? Has there never been units returned to Profilux, resulting in down time?

I have no doubt that they break down less, they do use higher quality parts, hence the higher price. I have no doubt their service will back it up 100%. But the way yourself and others talk, its as though these computers are 100% break down proof. Seeing more Apexs crap out means little when there are X amount more than Profilux out there. Its like saying more Toyotas break down than Ferraris or the like.
 
Maybe someone would be kind enough to tell me what is the Ex and how does it differ from the regular
 
RCmania - come across to the GHL forum and I will explain.


Ok.....But what I quoted you saying does not really sound that way. Neptune controllers are not always breaking down or always requiring service, far from it. The vast majority will probably never need their support for repair.

But I'd still like to know, are Profilux controllers break down proof? Has there never been units returned to Profilux, resulting in down time?

I have no doubt that they break down less, they do use higher quality parts, hence the higher price. I have no doubt their service will back it up 100%. But the way yourself and others talk, its as though these computers are 100% break down proof. Seeing more Apexs crap out means little when there are X amount more than Profilux out there. Its like saying more Toyotas break down than Ferraris or the like.

Don't usually answer anything on these threads as they should stay unbiased. BUT a direct questions has been asked and I will answer it.

The answer is not to our knowledge and we are the distributors, I am not aware of a unit to date that was not due to drop kick shipping methods. We had a run of a few LCD screens not like being shipped where a crystal line would go down, and these screens were sent to the client meaning no down time.

ALL GHL units are bench and soak tested prior to shipping to us, each unit has a QC sticker on its bum with the date of testing and engineers initials, a unit does not leave the factory without this. Furthermore as the unit uses solid state architecture there are no wearable components to fail.

My own unit was build in 2002, it started as a Plus II, was then upgraded to a PLusII EX and now upgraded to a p3EX, the main board which is the most important component is still the original board.

Yes we have had units require repair from water damage or miss use, but even then the controller does not have to come back to us, ProfiLux is modular in component and self servicing, so if a client has the miss fortune of breaking theirs and need a controller working next day we can fast track the part to them, this is also done at 0% profit margin meaning all spares carry no up charge from manufacture,so if you have an accident we don't profit from it, why should we? we all make mistakes don't we ;)

In regards to controllers out there, remember GHL is a Global product not restricted in territory, it also has been around since 1998 globally,the user based is massive due to this sales arena, North America forms less than 10% of the sales volume for GHL

I am sure the responders will be "don't buy that" Oh well, proof of the pudding is in the eating ;)

I am not going to reply to any further comments so if you have any questions directly to us please PM or ask on the forum

All the best
M
 
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