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[L8Braker]

Any of the EV1000 guys still reading this thread? I have recently set one up on my big tank and had the water split from a Reeflo Gold Dart/Snapper (4200 gph) but it is not driving the skimmer enough. I have just ordered a Mag24 that will be ran from the sump direct to the EV1000 in hopes that it runs more consistent and high production.

The reeflo also powers my Ultima Bead Filter.

 

[Jade5051]

Any of the EV1000 guys still reading this thread? I have recently set one up on my big tank and had the water split from a Reeflo Gold Dart/Snapper (4200 gph) but it is not driving the skimmer enough. I have just ordered a Mag24 that will be ran from the sump direct to the EV1000 in hopes that it runs more consistent and high production.



The reeflo also powers my Ultima Bead Filter.

I've never used an ev series but I've read a lot on them and used the remora/urchin series a lot. Head pressure is probably more important than anything when it comes to performance with these skimmers. The skimmer puts a lot of back pressure on the pump and the pump has to be able to over come that pressure to get good performance. The reeflo has a ton of flow but since there is a split from the reeflo you are probably losing a lot of back pressure and not getting the foaming action you desire. Once you get it on a separate pump you should see much better results.

 

[L8Braker]

Thanks Jade ..... The Mag24 (reccomended by Acua C) is coming in today and I will report back once installed. You are probably correct in the lack of head pressure once split.

 

[Jade5051]

Thanks Jade ..... The Mag24 (reccomended by Acua C) is coming in today and I will report back once installed. You are probably correct in the lack of head pressure once split.

Np! I know I saw a huge increase in performance when I switched from a hydro pump to a mag pump. Not because my flow was increased but because the micro bubbles were finer and the foam was thicker and more consistent. I have to dial the mag back with a gate valve but the increase pressure on the line is really what drives the skimmer. I'm not sure of the mag24s head height I'd imagine it's 15+ feet. If yo still are not getting the results you want you may want to look at a pump with similar flow rate and higher head pressure.

 

[L8Braker]

We have bubbles...lots of bubbles!!!!!! This mag24 has definitely bumped up the productivity rate. I will report back in 2-3 days after it breaks in again with the new pump.

 

[cas1069]

good to hear let us know

 

[L8Braker]

Here is a quick picture reference of the difference. I was able to get the old setup to foam up into the cup but had to leave the airflow wide open and really close the gate valve. Now it flows more water and I am able to control the consistency of the skimmate. Huge difference! Event hough the Reeflo has a ton of pressure and flow once split off it was no capable of fully powering the ultima2 and ev1000.

 

[Jade5051]

Here is a quick picture reference of the difference. I was able to get the old setup to foam up into the cup but had to leave the airflow wide open and really close the gate valve. Now it flows more water and I am able to control the consistency of the skimmate. Huge difference! Event hough the Reeflo has a ton of pressure and flow once split off it was no capable of fully powering the ultima2 and ev1000.

Beautiful!

 

[gcarroll]

Here is a quick picture reference of the difference. I was able to get the old setup to foam up into the cup but had to leave the airflow wide open and really close the gate valve. Now it flows more water and I am able to control the consistency of the skimmate. Huge difference! Event hough the Reeflo has a ton of pressure and flow once split off it was no capable of fully powering the ultima2 and ev1000.

i personally used a mag 36 on my EV1000. I used a mag 24 on my EV400.

 

[cas1069]

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this is mine running on the DC pump

 

[AZRippster]

I used a Mag 18 on my EV240 and they said it would overdrive it. I didn't find that the case. I called one time (very helpful tech support) and found a right angle in my plumbing was causing too much back pressure. Removed it and it worked much better,,,,,,, until the proverbial snail found it's way into the nozzle jet, again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and..... Got sick of it and after upgrading to a 450G tank, dumped the nozzle technology for tried and true venturi and have never looked back. Needle wheels require maintenance as do the nozzle jet on Aqua-C skimmers. Great company and great people. If you like always monitoring your performance to determine when you need to unscrew the nozzle for a snail removal procedure, stick with it.

 

[L8Braker]

Mag36 discontinued and Mag24 is the largest I could find now.

 

[gcarroll]

I would think the Fluval SP6 might work and would be a nice replacement and far more energy efficient.

 

[Jade5051]

I would think the Fluval SP6 might work and would be a nice replacement and far more energy efficient.

When I first read this I thought no absolutely not but after further review of these pumps I'm on the fence and think contacting Jason Kim the president of AquaC would be the best reference.

Here is the break down...

The mag24 has less flow 2400 gph but a much higher max head height of 18ft.
The fluval sp6 has more flow 3434 gph and lower max head height of 13ft.

But, @11ft the mag24 and sp6 have 950 and 1003 gph, respectively. So, the pumps are very comparable in that sense.

The fluval almost uses half the amount of energy, 265 vs 135 watts, which is very appealing. Mags are not the most efficient but the extra wattage certainly contributes to the difference of max head height. The primary concern with the sp6 is that it falls off so fast. It goes from 1003gph @ 11ft to 0gph @ 13ft, in just 2 feet it losses 1000gph and this may cripple the pumps ability to drive the skimmer properly. The mag24 has a much more gradual decline in flow which is probably why in so many cases that mags are the preferred pump for these skimmers.

It's been well documented that these skimmers perform better with pressure rated pumps and that max flow does not necessarily increase the performance, the mag is probably the best option for performance. But again Jason would know the answer. He would be able to analyze the pumps and give you the best recommendation.

If you are looking for a submersible pump option outside of the mag24 then the Sicce Syncra High Flow or HF series might be the best bet. The power curve/max head height on the HF pump is respectable and should be comparable to the performance of the mag with much less energy consumption.

TLDR: Contact AquaC about Mag24 vs SP6 and consider a Sicce Syncra HF 10.0 or 12.0.

 

[gcarroll]

When I first read this I thought no absolutely not but after further review of these pumps I'm on the fence and think contacting Jason Kim the president of AquaC would be the best reference.

Here is the break down...

The mag24 has less flow 2400 gph but a much higher max head height of 18ft.
The fluval sp6 has more flow 3434 gph and lower max head height of 13ft.

But, @11ft the mag24 and sp6 have 950 and 1003 gph, respectively. So, the pumps are very comparable in that sense.

The fluval almost uses half the amount of energy, 265 vs 135 watts, which is very appealing. Mags are not the most efficient but the extra wattage certainly contributes to the difference of max head height. The primary concern with the sp6 is that it falls off so fast. It goes from 1003gph @ 11ft to 0gph @ 13ft, in just 2 feet it losses 1000gph and this may cripple the pumps ability to drive the skimmer properly. The mag24 has a much more gradual decline in flow which is probably why in so many cases that mags are the preferred pump for these skimmers.


It's been well documented that these skimmers perform better with pressure rated pumps and that max flow does not necessarily increase the performance, the mag is probably the best option for performance. But again Jason would know the answer. He would be able to analyze the pumps and give you the best recommendation.

If you are looking for a submersible pump option outside of the mag24 then the Sicce Syncra High Flow or HF series might be the best bet. The power curve/max head height on the HF pump is respectable and should be comparable to the performance of the mag with much less energy consumption.

TLDR: Contact AquaC about Mag24 vs SP6 and consider a Sicce Syncra HF 10.0 or 12.0.

Hence the reason why I said "might" work. I will say this though. I would bet that Mag 24 is using no more than 135w. With the added head pressure of the injector, energy consumption is drastically reduced. My EV1000 w/ Mag36 consumed 175w. My EV400 w/ Mag24 consumed 125w. My EV400 had the same injector as the EV1000. When you talk to Jason, tell him Greg Carroll said hi. We haven't talked much since the price of electricity skyrocketed here in California.

 

[Jade5051]

Hence the reason why I said "might" work. I will say this though. I would bet that Mag 24 is using no more than 135w. With the added head pressure of the injector, energy consumption is drastically reduced. My EV1000 w/ Mag36 consumed 175w. My EV400 w/ Mag24 consumed 125w. My EV400 had the same injector as the EV1000. When you talk to Jason, tell him Greg Carroll said hi. We haven't talked much since the price of electricity skyrocketed here in California.

Thanks for the insight I've never really taken into consideration that the added head pressure of the injector actually reduces the energy consumption of the pump.

 

[cas1069]

When I first read this I thought no absolutely not but after further review of these pumps I'm on the fence and think contacting Jason Kim the president of AquaC would be the best reference.

Here is the break down...

The mag24 has less flow 2400 gph but a much higher max head height of 18ft.
The fluval sp6 has more flow 3434 gph and lower max head height of 13ft.

But, @11ft the mag24 and sp6 have 950 and 1003 gph, respectively. So, the pumps are very comparable in that sense.

The fluval almost uses half the amount of energy, 265 vs 135 watts, which is very appealing. Mags are not the most efficient but the extra wattage certainly contributes to the difference of max head height. The primary concern with the sp6 is that it falls off so fast. It goes from 1003gph @ 11ft to 0gph @ 13ft, in just 2 feet it losses 1000gph and this may cripple the pumps ability to drive the skimmer properly. The mag24 has a much more gradual decline in flow which is probably why in so many cases that mags are the preferred pump for these skimmers.

It's been well documented that these skimmers perform better with pressure rated pumps and that max flow does not necessarily increase the performance, the mag is probably the best option for performance. But again Jason would know the answer. He would be able to analyze the pumps and give you the best recommendation.

If you are looking for a submersible pump option outside of the mag24 then the Sicce Syncra High Flow or HF series might be the best bet. The power curve/max head height on the HF pump is respectable and should be comparable to the performance of the mag with much less energy consumption.

TLDR: Contact AquaC about Mag24 vs SP6 and consider a Sicce Syncra HF 10.0 or 12.0.

i used the sicce 10 to run my 400 before i went to the dark side and it worked great buy it is a very large pump and over time started to have issues. (i had to send it in 3 times to be fixed) but when it works its great

 

[Jade5051]

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this is mine running on the DC pump

This bubble production is quite impressive. I didn't think a DC pump would have this fine of bubble production. The skimmate is pretty wet and looks like it could be adjusted to produce slightly darker and drier skimmate. Is that a Jebao pump you are using to drive the skimmer? This makes me want to trial a DC pump on my Urchin or purchase an EV120 and Jebao dc pump. I've silenced my urchin and it's pretty much whisper quiet. It does a pretty good job. I'm concerned that the spray injection of an EV120 will be too loud for my liking and I won't be able to sleep at night.

 

[cas1069]

yes I run it a bit on the wetside. I use the waveline dc pumps and love them, I also have used jebao wp powerheads and so far have not had any problems with them but I have seen one in person that its controller is screwed up and will random restart and reset, having seen that I would not put much faith in one of the pumps or I should say in the pumps controller for something major like a return or skimmer but that's just how I feel.

 

[Quiverfull]

Ehiem 2400 pump for an EV 120?

Ehiem 2400 pump for an EV 120?

I have an older EV120 that has been in storage for several years. I started using it on a new set up. I had a mag 5 on it previously but I never felt that it was functioning well. either very wet or no skim depending on water level. I recently set it back up after a thorough cleaning and am now using an Ehiem 2400 (rated at 630 gph). Outflow and air valves are totally open. water level is up to horizontal plate in body. Has not really started to generate foam yet. How long do you expect for it to break in and start producing foam? Is the 2400 pump a good choice?