Aquavitro salt (SEACHEM)
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pimp2daizzo
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true , i have a friend there with a 150 in his office
I would never place a cloudy mix in my tank with corals that i have spent thousands of dollars on. I do not feel that is the proper reccomendation to anyone that wants to have long term success in this hobby.
One thing I have learned, "that things in the aquarium die a lot quicker than they grow!!!"
Remember Boomer's advice as well - that adding the salt to your RO/DI water slower will help as well.
Maybe half the amount needed - wait for a couple of hours? ( or overnite? ) and add the remaining amount needed.
Hopefully Boomer can elaborate a little on what he thinks will work best in this regard.
T
Maybe half the amount needed - wait for a couple of hours? ( or overnite? ) and add the remaining amount needed.
Hopefully Boomer can elaborate a little on what he thinks will work best in this regard.
T
RBU1
Moving on Up
Well I don't have corals I spent thousands on.....Only fish.....LOL
RBU1
Moving on Up
Well if your willing to try you will see it will not harm anything. And you will be happy with the results. The new label on the Salinty will make you aware it will be cloudy. I know Seachem has been using it on their SPS systems and have no problems.
And...the "what" you keep in each individual's tank may be more important to the descision of how well mixed/dissolved the salt needs to be.
Basic rule of thumb - IMHO - is that the SPS corals I keep, and have kept are as a group much more sensitive to any change, even ones that are positive.
A system predominated by soft corals, or fish - is generally thought of as more forgiving.
T
Basic rule of thumb - IMHO - is that the SPS corals I keep, and have kept are as a group much more sensitive to any change, even ones that are positive.
A system predominated by soft corals, or fish - is generally thought of as more forgiving.
T
RBU1
Moving on Up
Try it on your frag system as you stated and post your results.
I will RB. I am due some water changes this coming week in one system, where I have a couple of LPS colonies, but no softies right now ( tho - that is what I originally set up that system for...)
I will try to remember to take pictures of the corals before the water change, and after.
T
I will try to remember to take pictures of the corals before the water change, and after.
T
Thanks for the thread, it was a good read.
I too use salinity but I don't have the mix issues. It sounds like water temp and slow addition is how I am getting lucky.
I don't add air, but I use two pumps to mix, and the water temp in the 55 is ~73F with the pumps running, probably starting at ~65F when I add the salt.
I have been checking the alk the morning after I mix and all is well. The trouble is that I have not been checking the alk before I add it to the system, and that often is several days later. I plan to do a daily alk/Ca test over the weekend and let it mix for a few days to see what I get.
I don't understand how the alk would drop (assuming that there is not high CO2) after allowing the water to mix for a few days, but we will see.
teesquare> I too use less than the label states to reach 1.026. Generally I stop about 2 cups short, test it the next day and end up adding less than a cup to reach target. This is in 50 gal.
-Todd
I too use salinity but I don't have the mix issues. It sounds like water temp and slow addition is how I am getting lucky.
I don't add air, but I use two pumps to mix, and the water temp in the 55 is ~73F with the pumps running, probably starting at ~65F when I add the salt.
I have been checking the alk the morning after I mix and all is well. The trouble is that I have not been checking the alk before I add it to the system, and that often is several days later. I plan to do a daily alk/Ca test over the weekend and let it mix for a few days to see what I get.
I don't understand how the alk would drop (assuming that there is not high CO2) after allowing the water to mix for a few days, but we will see.
teesquare> I too use less than the label states to reach 1.026. Generally I stop about 2 cups short, test it the next day and end up adding less than a cup to reach target. This is in 50 gal.
-Todd
I don't use Salinity, but I mix my salt very slowly. I add about half cup about every 15+ minutes, longer when I get distracted, which is often. This is in a 20gallon brute so if I was mixing a larger volume I would be comfortable increasing the amount of salt I added at a time. This may be over kill and Salinity might need a different method but this works for me. I also believe that if you mix it slowly and at a lower temp as you mentioned you will avoid the precip and resulting drop in your alk, even if it sits for a few days.
Swanwillow
goby girl
~Here's for bumping a semi-old thread~
Where is a good place to purchase Salinity? I tried on amazon, but their supplier stank.. can't get ahold of them, and they haven't sent it out. But they placed the 'ship by' date so far out in the future that my hands are tied til the 17th. (ordered on the 2nd)
Where is a good place to purchase Salinity? I tried on amazon, but their supplier stank.. can't get ahold of them, and they haven't sent it out. But they placed the 'ship by' date so far out in the future that my hands are tied til the 17th. (ordered on the 2nd)
Swanwillow
goby girl
Since posting this I found it on a few online stores. from 84 + shipping to 120+ shipping... now if any of them are better than what experiences I've had...
RBU1
Moving on Up
Well I made the switch.....From the Salinity to Oceanic. There were a couple reasons for the switch. The cloudiness did play a role but not a major one. It was a pain for me to get the salt. My local store was not carrying it so they had to order it for me everytime I needed salt. It became just a pain in the butt.....
I have only mixed up 50 gallons of the Oceanic and have only done one water change. I can say that it was clear in a matter of an hour. I tested with my API and Salifert kit and here is what I get....
Alk 10-11
Cal 520
Mag 1440
PH 7.9
I am real happy with those results. I may be able to cut back on my dosing.....We shall see. So far so good on the Oceanic. I did notice it takes more salt to get me to my 35 ppt. The salinity took 8 heaping, glass, 2 cup measuring cups and the Oceanic takes 9 heaping....
I have only mixed up 50 gallons of the Oceanic and have only done one water change. I can say that it was clear in a matter of an hour. I tested with my API and Salifert kit and here is what I get....
Alk 10-11
Cal 520
Mag 1440
PH 7.9
I am real happy with those results. I may be able to cut back on my dosing.....We shall see. So far so good on the Oceanic. I did notice it takes more salt to get me to my 35 ppt. The salinity took 8 heaping, glass, 2 cup measuring cups and the Oceanic takes 9 heaping....
Did you ever check your water after letting it sit? I normally make 20g at a time. I make 10g for the week's change and 10g for any emergency that might come up. Yesterday I did a change with the extra 10g from the water I made 2 weeks ago. I checked the alk with 2 test kits. Both are API, and I know these are not the favorite here, but it's what is available to me locally. I got 9 on both kits.
I do have to give a small disclaimer though, I have a bucket of red sea coral pro I am trying to use up so when I make my water I use two cups of that salt along with the salinity. This time I will make a batch with only salinity and see if the alk drops over extended time.
DeepSeaBeauti
Will Fielitz
So ive been using this salt now for a few months. I actualy started one of the other post about how bad the salt smelt, and how cloudy it makes my tank. But i have to admit that since i started using this salt (compaired the the tropic marin) my coraline has exploded, my soft corals look amazing, and the water looks great. I also should note that the water does not get as cloudy as it did when i first started using the salt. As a lot of ppl sugested it was probably due to an inbalance in my water chemistry. Also, I do not let the water sit after mixing, It is added about an hour after mixing. This was recomened from the manufactura. This still made the tank a littl cloudy, but did not leave a sediment covering my corals. More recently i began doing small frequent water changes. After thouroughly reading the article here on RC about water changes, i began to do small frequent changes instead of my usual 20% bulk change. My fish seem happyer, my tank is definatly doing better, And i dont get huge chemistry changes that you get from quick bulk water changes. Aside from the price, your going to love this salt. Also check out that article!
disc1
-RT * ln(k)
I use this salt and mix slowly like Boomer recommended. I do this because it clogs my powerhead in the tub if I go too fast, but I guess it serves another purpose too. I have noticed that even if the water gets clear before I add it to my tank, it gets a bit cloudy as soon as I turn the pumps back on. And my skimmer goes CRAZY. It looks like someone dumped a bottle of Dawn in the tank and let the skimmer try to get it out. I have to turn it off for about an hour or two after I do a water change.
