Avoided power outage disaster!!!

bbehring

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Well, this would be a shout out lesson to all to be prepared before disaster strikes. Thought I'd share my 18 hour power outage experience with all (and very lucky it was just 18 hours). We were woken up at 1:30am by a power outage. Nothing really unusual as in past outages we wait 15 to 20 min and the juice comes back on. We'll we jumped out of bed checked on the kids, located our flashlights then began checking our tanks and pond etc. Both our tanks and pond power down well (and most of the time power back up with no problems). We've been through several small outages but none real long past 3 to 4 hours at any one time. Anyway, after about an hour with no juice, we began to worry and dialed up Southern Cal Edison via cell to see what the scoop was. Well some poor souls had missed a corner turn down the street a couple of blocks and creamed a sub transformer, plowing through it, through a block wall and into someones back yard. The emergency power crew was dispatched and by 6am the 1 splice had been made. We headed out to breakfast at 7am thinking that by the time we returned the power would be back on. Checking with SCE at 8am after breakfast yielded an approximate time of restored power at or after 8am. Well this is when our unprepardness hit home hard. We borrowed a 1500 w old generator from our best friends. Problem was the unit was super old and hadn't been run in over 2 years. Finally after 20 to 30 minutes I got the thing fired up and then realized that I couldn't get into my garage for my power cords without power to my auto GD opener. I then headed out to the LHS and bought 6 new power cords. After plugging in my sump return pump (mag 5) the generator power serged then konked out. I got it started a few times but same result, once a load was put on it it just shut down within a few minutes. Well be move to plan B! I marched down to my local RV center and purchased a brand spakin new 2000i generator and my wife ran out an picked up a 6kw rental generator. With the 2 generators in yard, I proceeded to add our loads to them. On the 6kw I was able to get 90% of the reef tank hooked up (minus my skimmer and MH), 2 water pumps and an air pump on my kids cichlid tank and our upright freezer. The 6kw rocked. On the newly purchased 2kw I was able to get my kitchen fridge/freezer and a spare (newly purchased 340gph pump) for my 4000 gal koi pond. Whew! Gotter all hooked up and running with in maybe 1 1/2 hours from the initial plan B inception. Well the power just came back on about 10 min ago and we're in the clear! I'm the proud new owner of a 2kw generator and will be purchasing a used 6kw generator soon! We are happy that this has happened to us now and not during an actual serious disaster. We are now more prepared and have 90% of the equipment required to sustain us and our systems for some time (as long as there would be gas available). Anyway, just thought I'd share to maybe motivate all to get prepared before actual power outage disaster strikes your home.
 
Why not get a decent sized battery backup made for computers? I've got one hooked up to my powerheads and it should supply them with more than enough juice for at least 10 hours or so I would assume.... I guess YMMV as most don't use smaller powerheads, I'm just saying.
 
NIce going. I just lost power for about an hr. My batterybackup for my vortech is on backorder!!

A cool thing I just did was: I had an electrician run a 220 line from my garage to my box. It splits into both buses (?). ANyway if i lose power, i shut of the main, fire up the generator (dont have one yet) and backfeed the the whole house. i paid the guy like 300 bucks for the work.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11277317#post11277317 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nattydread
NIce going. I just lost power for about an hr. My batterybackup for my vortech is on backorder!!

A cool thing I just did was: I had an electrician run a 220 line from my garage to my box. It splits into both buses (?). ANyway if i lose power, i shut of the main, fire up the generator (dont have one yet) and backfeed the the whole house. i paid the guy like 300 bucks for the work.

This is exactly how mine is set up. I have one very thick 10 guage cord coming out of the bottom of my panel. I plug that into my generator and all my outlets work as normal.

My generator will also run my whole house including all lighting on the reef tank and our A/C.

A must for the hurricane prone states.
 
Does your breaker panel have a manual lock out to prevent you from back feeding the entire neighborhood from your generator?? The power company doesn't take kindly to fried linemen.
Square D and others make a kit you can install on you panel to prevent you from having the Main breaker and the Back Feed breaker on at the sometime. Get one!!! @
 
batteries are fine for short duration poweroutages. Once exhausted you don't have a power source anymore. You could also just keep a reg 12 volt battery hook a 200w inverter up and bring it in on an as needed basis. We do this to decorate our golf cart at Christmas time with 120v lights. Works like a charm. I think the generator is the best backup of both short and log term, plus you can power more. If your house goes down for more than 24 hours your food in your fridge will start to go bad.
 
I have a generator I can hook up to a Gentron panel which allows me to run several circuits without backfeeding to the grid. With a 5500 watt generator I can run my tank (no lighting), living room, refrigerator, bedroom, well and furnace.

The way I justified the generator purchase was fairly simple. Even if I were to lose all the food in my refrigerator because of an outage, it would almost cover the investment. If you then add up the damage caused by frozen, busted pipes, and it REALLY makes sense. At least for those of us in the cold north.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11278314#post11278314 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rickh
Does your breaker panel have a manual lock out to prevent you from back feeding the entire neighborhood from your generator?? The power company doesn't take kindly to fried linemen.
Square D and others make a kit you can install on you panel to prevent you from having the Main breaker and the Back Feed breaker on at the sometime. Get one!!! @

I don't have one of those, a great idea though.

I was a commercial & residential electrician in a former life & I know exactly how it feels to be on the other end of that.

Though if your feeding the grid in your area and your house is still running normally then I have a case of serious generator envy! :eek2:
 
I've a battery backup for the HDTV and after reading this thread I was thinking about getting a backup for the pumps. Sure enough I was checking my email and saw a ad from newegg.com (I've ordered electronics from them for many years) for a battery backup with reasonable price of $29.99 and free shipping (UPS 3 days with promotional code: EMC1129RMSE01

Here's the item I got: Rosewill RU101 600VA 300Watts 6 Outlets UPS - Retail
 
cant say enough about having a generator, our power got knocked out for a day and a half last August. Of course we were on vacation when it happened. When our neighbor called to tell us what happened.Long story short, I told them what needed to be online in order for the tank to survive. The hardest thing was keeping enough gas around.
 
I am looking at a whole house generac. Just for giggles, I went through Home Depot, who sent out some contractors to estimate the install.

The guys wanted 10 grand for the install. (Plus, the generator costs about that much). Are they from another planet?
 
You are going to pay for automation.

If you dont mind moving the generator, hooking up a cord and starting it on your own, then a basic system is for you. It will not start automatically if you aren't home...unlike the more expensive systems.

Its up to you and your budget.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11293118#post11293118 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bbehring
Cham, what size is your generator?

5,500 running watts.

My house is new and we bought an Energy Star package with it that gives us super efficient A/C & appliances so that may have something to do with it.

But I ran my whole house, A/C, 62" LCD TV, had my MH's and all pumps running on my tank and there were no issues.
 
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