barebottom shallow 30gal, carpet nem?

james1990

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Im running a 24x24x14 shallow barebottom reef. I upgraded from a 10gal nano. I have a great place for a carpet nem and think it would set off my tank. Is sand required to keep these animals? Are they known to move often?

thanks
 
It would depend on the type of carpet... Haddoni's like to be in the sand, where as Gigantea's prefer to be up on the rockwork... If you keep them happy and in the proper environment, they shouldn't move too much... Of course I wouldn't depend on them staying put either... ;)
 
Either carpet would reach 16 inches in diameter very quickly. A 24X24 tank would have room for just one of these carpet and nothing else.
 
My small Gigantea in my quarantine cube. She won't be there for long. It is a 20X20X18 cube. I have not feed her in an effort to keep her from growing (She is full of eggs)

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BTW, Bare bottom means that you cannot keep Haddoni carpet.
The choice for clownfish hosting anemones in general are limminted with BB tank. E. quadricolor, H. magnifica, S. gigantea and H. crispa are about the only host anemones that do not require sand bed. Of these, S. gigantea is the most difficult anemones to get healthy and to keep with H. magnifica is the not too close second (but not too far off either)
 
awesome info!

This is not a decision im jumping into, im going to take time to ensure that I will be able to provide a healthy environment to any animal I add. With that being said, the research continues...

I dont know how much longer I plan on keeping this tank barebottom (i miss sand) but how deep of a sand bed is suggested for a haddoni carpet? would 1-2 inches be okay?

For the purposes of this thread, I would like more information on the haddoni and gigantea. I understand they are hard to keep, what does this exactly mean? If I am on top of taking care of hard to keep SPS, shouldnt this also provide enough for one of these anemones?

As for the size, I would actually like to have a few choice SPS and a show piece carpet nem. Im trying to see if that is feasible
 
Keep the island and turn it to a place for a Magnifica (not a carpet) which perk on top of a rock formation under bright light.

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Keep the island and turn it to a place for a Magnifica (not a carpet) which perk on top of a rock formation under bright light.

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+1. I've seen a lot of smaller magnificas recently, in contrast to both haddoni and gigantea where most I've seen are 12"+. Though magnifica get very large, I think they are better suited for a smaller tank since they don't spread out as much as gigs or haddoni.

In terms of level of difficulty and care requirements, if you can keep SPS, then you should be fine. However, the issue is not care requirements but successfully finding a healthy carpet anemone. There are quite a few threads on sick (not bleached) gigantea, all ending with the death of the anemone. Bleached gigantea seem to have a better track record.

In other words, the research that you do on any carpet anemone should not only focus on care (they are actually quite hardy once acclimated) but more importantly learning about what sick carpets look like, and despite your best intentions, to avoid bringing one home.
 
Regarding sand depth, I would go with at least 2", but would recommend 4". I had a haddoni in the past that secured itself to the bottom of the tank (I could see its foot through the glass) through a 4"+ DSB. Most of the sand dwelling anemones don't actually live right in the sand, but find something to attach to below the surface of the sand.
 
I cannot do a deep sand bed because the tank is only 13' high lol im burning corals as it it. After the info on this thread I think ill stay away from a carpet nem untill I upgrade. I want to be able to provide the best conditions for one
 
I cannot do a deep sand bed because the tank is only 13' high lol im burning corals as it it. After the info on this thread I think ill stay away from a carpet nem untill I upgrade. I want to be able to provide the best conditions for one

I think that's a smart decision -- but also an excellent excuse to get yourself a bigger aquarium.
 
In your tank, you can keep a Magnifica or Gigantea. Both are difficult to keep and find healthy but doable it you can get a healthy one to begin with.
However, as I stated earlier, there will not be much room for anything else.

Anemone and clownfish is such an interesting relationship, and such rewarding animals to keep. Best of luck at what ever you decided to do. They are what hook me on reeftanks. I keep everything else too but my aquariums are not complete unless I have an anemone and clownfish pair in each of the aquariums.
 
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