When do you think he will release the current stock? Or atleast a list of what would possibly be available? Do you know if hes trying any larger angels or sticking to strictly to the dwarfs?
I cannot elaborate much on it... and will not mention species or quantities...
Copps
Patience my friend!
Oh and Copps, I did not mean to sound in any way negative in my post, it is more of just angst at wanting to know what he is dealing with over there. I would LOVE to see him deal with Interruptus, Personatus, or the like. I know that he can do it; IIRC they did raise a single Personatus at Wakiki a long time ago, right???
No sweat... I understand the angst. That is why I specifically asked Frank if I could go public at least with the news that he has angelfish again. For years I have helped Frank with RCT in regards to the consumer market of his angelfish... this disease I have in acquiring angelfish knowledge comes in handy to very few people in the world, but Frank is one of them. Rest assured I echo to Frank the demands of us angelfish nuts!
On the topic of the captive raised personatus, it's funny you ask about that fish! A couple of friends and myself had dinner at the infamous Karen Brittain's house on the east side of Oahu on this Hawaii trip. Karen is not only the SECOND person in the world to successfully spawn and raise CB angelfish, ironically just months after Frank and completely independently, but an incredibly nice and cool down to earth person! We talked about the infamous "Geni-babe" as Karen calls her, the one and only captive raised personatus to gain any size. Actually, four juveniles settled out, but only that one made it to an appreciable size... Karen and I nerded it up at her facility. Karen showed me the one CB personatus she had preserved on her shelf in a test tube... one of the three that didn't make it and just a few mm long... the formalin had evaporated away and the fish was dried up but still very recognizable... I was amazed by this little fish... an historic fish as I termed it... still just one of four CB Genicanthus ever! I mentioned that this fish needed a jazzy name like "Geni-babe" and my buddy suggested "Dry Rot"... I think that name may have stuck. Best of all, at the end of the night, Karen GAVE ME DRY ROT! She knew that there is perhaps no one else in the world that would appreciate this like me! :rollface:
Better yet, later on that week I went behind the scenes at the Waikiki Aquarium and rummaged the shelves of their preserved fish collection looking for Genibabe... after a while of digging I found her! She was bigger than I'd thought! I snapped pics and hope to write an article profiling the story...
The captive raised tangs and BS that has been coming into the hobby is a joke! Anyone can catch a small fish raise it an inch and call it captive raised. To think that they are catching these fish pre-settlement and raising them past settlement is idiotic at best. I can't believe people buy this. The fish are being collected post-settlement and being raised up a little until they look like they are in good shape and then being sold as captive raised. That is like going to one of the for-sale threads and buying a fish that is cheap because the seller wants to move the fish and then re-selling it for double as captive raised. Such a joke! Tangs have such a long larval phase and no one has yet to raise them, even though lots of people have been trying to raise "hawaii gold" for a while. Moving a planktonic larval fish is extremely stressful, let alone identifying them...
Agreed 100% Tim. Very well put... To call these yellow and hippo tangs captive raised is bunk. This misinformation will take away from the eventual success from whomever does crack this family at the larval stage.
Back on topic, so who else is breeding Angels out there besides Frank over at RCT copps?
Plenty of people are breeding them, but none that I'm aware of are rasing them.
Curious as to what the prices were on his fish when he was breeding and selling before?
Centropyge interrupta, his most well known species, was selling for $650 a piece. Centropyge resplendens were going for $785. The Centropyge resplendens/ C. fisheri hybrids went for a few different prices in that range...
I've heard that P. maculosus (not a dwarf, but still an angel) are bred for the food market in Asia. Some of the juveniles make their way into the hobby--I've seen them offered online on in a while.
Pomacanthus asfur has also been done in much smaller numbers.
I stand corrected, and I apologize for being snarky. I thought captive-raising simply meant that the fish were caught at very tiny larval stage and then raised in an aquaculture facility. Does that mean that these tank-raised fish on the market recently are kind of a scam?
No need to apologize. Unfortunately this misinformation has led to many believing this, taking away from the true greats like the ones mentioned in this thread...
Copps
