Black trigger has ick. Never had it before. How do I treat?

For advice, answer the following questions.

1. What is the temperature of the water?
2. Do you have any live rock in the tank?
3. Do you have any invertabrates in the tank?
 
If "no" to #2 and #3 of the questions asked, you can treat ich using hyposalenity. Many people here have had success with it. And it's probably the most safest as far as fish health.

If "yes" to the above questions, then you'll probably have to get a hospital tank and treat your fish with Hyposalenity in there.
 
I would read the two articles that Jonathan pointed out and get a Qt tank going as he stated.

Your best course would be to folllow the advice in the links.

Regards,

Pat
 
To pennyguy23:

You don't have to remove your fish into a quarintine tank to treat it! There is a medicine known as Rid-Ich. It is organic and safe to use with invertabrates.
 
cleaner shrimp do wonders! I have only ever had one outbreak of ick and the banded cleaner and fire cleaner shrimp, along with the cleaner wrasse, took care of the problem.
 
I wouldn't put Rid-Ich into my reef tank. I've never seen any data that "reef-safe" medication are really reef-safe, except for Steven Pro's studies, which demonstrated that some were not very reef-safe at all. I'm also not convinced that Rid-Ich actually does anything useful. There are some article in Reefkeeping.com and other places on marine ich.

The cleaner shrimp might help, but I've certainly heard stories of people losing fish in a tank with cleaners.
 
I have used Rid-Ich to treat ick and it worked in my coral reef tank (which is filled with inverts)! None of my inverts died.
 
For every one of those medicines, there's some who think it works, and some who are sure it doesn't. I don't know how you can know that it affected the ich at all.
 
Rid-Ich contains malachite green and formalin. While this is a fairly standard treatment for freshwater Ich, I don't recommend it in saltwater. White Tiger may indeed have tried it with inverts and not killed everything, but in my opinion he was lucky. Formalin is highly toxic to nitrifying bacteria, so you can expect problems with ammonia if you use it. Both formalin and malachite green are carcinogenic. Malachite green is highly toxic to some species of fish.

There are a series of articles on Ich listed in the following thread. Without going back to original sources or doing your own research, you won't find better information on this disease:
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=282934
 
I know that Rid-Ich is safe since the makers of Rid-Ich says so. If the makers of Rid-Ich were telling false statements, it would be considered false advertising (which is illegal). Not only that, but before I put Rid-Ich in my tank, I counted all the inverts I had. After my ich treatment, I counted my inverts and came up with the same number.
 
I know that Rid-Ich is safe since the makers of Rid-Ich says so. If the makers of Rid-Ich were telling false statements, it would be considered false advertising (which is illegal). Not only that, but before I put Rid-Ich in my tank, I counted all the inverts I had. After my ich treatment, I counted my inverts and came up with the same number. In addition, it may be true that Rid-Ich is harmful to inverts. But that is only if you don't follow the directions for treating with the medicine.
 
White Tiger, I find your trust to be admirable. My experience indicates very strongly, however, that many aquarium products are nothing better than snake oil, regardless of the vendor's claim.

Regardless, here's the data sheet for Rid-Ich+: http://www.kordon.com/kpd38.htm
Toxicity
The RidÃ"šÃ‚·Ich+ combination in this formulation is relatively non-toxic for fishes, but may not be tolerated by certain invertebrates, when used as directed. [...] If RidÃ"šÃ‚·Ich+ must be used in aquariums containing invertebrates, tests should be performed to determine a particular animals' tolerance to this medication.
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You will note that they do not mention using Rid-Ich in reef tanks. I suggest not trying it.

On the topic of cleaner shrimp: Feel free to try it, but there's no good evidence that cleaner shrimp will control an Ich infection.
 
"Treatment of Freshwater and Saltwater External Parasites
The following procedure is applicable when treating the diseased fishes in their original aquarium or pond:
(a) Remove any invertebrates you wish to save."

This is from the company's data sheet. The comment after (a) is not very reassuring in my opinion.

I think one is flirting with danger with this stuff. I think SAT has hit the nail on the head. The good news is, if you choose to use it and it does not work out, you had all the data available to you and the responsibility is squarely yours.

Regards,

Pat
 
To SAT:

The Kordon website uses the phrase "...may cause servere stress or death..." in the article you chose. As a result, Kordon is indicating that it is possible that the medicine MIGHT harm inverts. Furthermore, Kordon does say that you can use Rid-Ich with reef aquariums in the 4th asterik.

Quotation from Kordon website---
IchÃ"šÃ‚·Attack IS SAFE FOR USE IN ALL KINDS OF AQUARIUMS AND ORNAMENTAL PONDS.

* effective in fresh, brackish or salt water
* safe for fishes normally sensitive to medications including "scaleless" fishes such as loaches and catfishes, coral reef fishes and fry
* will not harm eggs
* will not harm plants or reef aquariums
* can be used with amphibians and reptiles
* does not affect beneficial nitrifying bacteria.
* does not stain aquarium decor, aquarium sealants or equipment
* will not permanently discolor the water
* will not unduly affect the pH of the water
* IchÃ"šÃ‚·Attack can be used with all Kordon Water Conditioners such as NovAqua, AmQuel, and PolyAqua, all Kordon Water Clarifiers (*****-Clear and Sea Clear) and all AquaTru Water Quality Test Kits.
 
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