Blue Carpet Anemone....

[phender]

Clarki, true sebae and saddleback(polymnus) clowns are the common clowns that will really like your haddoni. That is not to say other clowns won't. Your ocellaris might go in if given some time, but if they don't hang out in that part of the aquarium, it decrease the chances.

Gigantea carpets have longer, less dense and pointier tentacles than haddonis. They also tend to have a less powerful sting. They are also much, much more difficult to keep.

 

[argus]

my clarkis love the carpet, but dont be discourged yet just give it some time one day you may see them getting closer and closer, ive found captive breed clowns even clarkis take a little more time to figure out anomones.

 

[mikeguerrero]

Argus,

Thanks for the feedback... My two black variant ocelleris don't care for nothing other than food in my tank.

The anemone is on the left side of the tank close to where they hang out, so I might have a chance later.

Does anyone here at RC have a Haddoni and a ocelleris together? I see nothing but pics of the clark, saddleback clowns with these gorgeous haddoni carpets...

Mike G

 

[diamond4100]

My Green Giant Carpet died this weekend. My clowns finally decided to start hosting him after 3 month I was so excited. It was late at night and slept in till about 10am lights come on at 7am. That was enough time for my false perc's to eat him. I had a 12in carpet and my clown would swim down and stick his head in the carpets mouth and rip out pieces of flesh. I didn't even realize what he was doing till that afternoon. Needless to say he killed him.

 

[mikeguerrero]

Diamond,

I'm really perplexed by what you stated, I had no idea that clowns will kill anemones.

Can anyone here on this site shed us some explanation on Diamons misfortune?

Mike

 

[RTaylor]

I got a 6" green Haddoni and by about 6 months later he is over 18". In the begining I only fed it about once a week, it then started helping itself to everything in the tank, so I started feeding it every day. It seemed to grow reguardless of how much I fed it.

It has eaten almost everything in my tank plus all new additions, 6-7 fish (2-4" tangs), 3 starfish, 1 big sea hare, and lots of snails and crabs.

Now I want to get rid of it, but I cant get it out. Its +7" foot is attached to the glass on the bottom of the tank under 6" of sand and up against on of the main structure rocks in my tank. Trying to get him out he moved the rock (+35lb) causing a partial collapse in the tank.

I am now taking ideas on how to kill it.

Good Luck with yours.

 

[mikeguerrero]

Wow,

RT that is the worse news I have heard on carpets. Mine is 2.5 inches in diameter and is relatively small in comparison to my tank which is 48 inches across with 72 gallons of water.

There are plenty of hiding spots among many crevices that the anemone couldn't get into, lack of light as well; fish should be safe there.

I have 21 fish in my tank total, with lots of snails and hermits and starfish; so I will keep count how many casualites.

How big is your tank that housed him? Why did you get a large carpet?

I've seen them that big like you post but I never would've gotten one that large unless you have a really huge tank.

How many other users on here can validate RT; because I'm really concerned for the well being of my critters and especially my fish.

Concerned reefer,

Mike

 

[argus]

well on the topic of clowns killing the anomone i have to cover mine with a big cut plastic bottle when feeding because the clowns will pull the food right out of the anomones mouth, if they ate it i wouldnt really care but they just pull it out and drop it. plus in another tank i have i have a seabe and the clowns in there are just plain ruthless on him they buffer all the time and also steal food. anomone lost all color and shrank signifcantly, but still eats well. but thats another post all together. i feed my carpet 2 times a week and he has grown quit a bit but has sat in the front of my tank for 1.5 years not moved 1 inch from the beging i gave him a big spot to grow into.

 

[mikeguerrero]

Argus,

I owned a sebea clown and the sebea anemone and loved the way he would feed him; would catch brine shrimp with the lip of his mouth and drag it to the tentacles of the anemone.

If I fed mysis shrimp he would drag that to the anemone. He really took care of him.

When the anemone would spit out digested food he would drag the waste away from the mouth.

Talk about the perfect couple....

Mike

 

[RTaylor]

It's in the 90g in my current tanks listing. Having hidey holes for the fish isn't the problem, the nem doesn't go searching for the fish (hasn't moved once), the fish are just stupid and swim too close to it.

The smallest nem's my LFS gets are 4-6". Mine grew from 6" to +18" in less then 6 months.

I really like the nem, but he just eats to much, and he is big enough now that he is causing problems with my nearby corals. If I could get him out I would set up a 30g cube just for him and his hosts (linked to the main system).

 

[mikeguerrero]

RT,

Thanks for sharing more info on your carpet and size tank. I have a 72 gallon, and I paid a pretty penny to pick up a 2.5 inch blue carpet.

I've never seen one this small and neither has my LFS. I was sold the second I saw it. Now, my carpet has not moved at all since I place him in 3 days agao; I'm happy about that.

I did feed it a hairy small crab that I found in one of my SPS. My fish consist of 5 tangs, 8 chromis, 1 algae blenny, 1 orchid dottyback, 1 sixline wrasse, 2 ocelleris, 1 yosha goby.

I have 3 emerald crabs, 2 cleaner shrimp, 1 blue CBS, 1 fire shrimp, 1 sexy shrimp and variety of snails and hermits.

So far no casualties but it's been only like 4 days. I really hope my fish are not dumb and run into him.

At night I also have strong moonlights that light him up; hopefully enough that he is clearly sensed and avoided.

Mike

 

[argus]

wow not mine, my clarkis just drop the food then come back and pull it away. im not having as good a luck with the seabea hes on the bottom of rockwork id say moderate flow areagets good lightbut lost all color and shrank a little all prams are perfect no phospates salinty good, im feeding him now 2 silversides everyotherday i was only feedinghim 2 times aweek. so ill see how it goes anything you reccommend mike? he settled in this spot and its good because hes right up front and easy to feed. i cant get pics to work on this site.

 

[mikeguerrero]

Argus,

What type of anemone do you have? Is it a carpet or a sebae? I've had clowns in the past that would selectively pull food away from there anemone and it would slowly die.

I was led to believe that a clown can detect a sick anemone and just contribute to it's quicker death; as I have had them go like you explain.

I didn't have good water parameters in the past when I was reefing at a much novice stage. So the anemone was doomed from the start.

I've also seen clowns kill there anemone after it was really sick sort of angry at it, mostly clarki's and sebae clowns.

I wish there was some way I could trade my ocelleris for two sebae or clarki or saddleback clowns that are wild caught and host my blue carpet.

That would give my other fish a better chance of not getting caught and becoming dinner or breakfest.

Mike

 

[argus]

i have both a seabea in my 40 breeder and a carpet in a 120 both with clarkii clowns as host. does seabea like being in sand or rocks? mine is knid of inbetween but seems to like lower flow.

 

[mikeguerrero]

My seabae was always in the sand. My carpet anemone is on the sandbed next to a rock where he is fastened.

Mike