Blue Striped or Clarkii?

stonecold

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I had placed an order for 2 Blue Stripe Anemonefish, Amphiprion chrysopterus. My order arrived yesterday, the smaller one (bottom in pic) has 3 stripes and looks to be a regular Clarkii. I have seen these in person before and pictures shown on the net shows that these "Blue Stripe" with only 2 stripes.

Can you guys help me to identify whether I did recieved Blue Stripe or regular Clarkii?

Thank you very much!

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It looks like the Clarkii I have swiming around in my tank right now. Maybe a more senior member will have a better guess, but it looks like a Clarkii to me.
 
the smaller one does look a hint like a clarkii, but i suspect you were shipped appropriately identified chrys.

any more pictures? you should be closing in on the three day mark which is a good indicator of whether or not your fish will survive....i hope they are breathing normally and eating well!
 
Looks like their third stripe is going away. If thats true then these aren't Clarkiis. My yellow tailed juvenile Chrysopterus came to me with three stripes. As he got older his third stripe went away and his second stripe got thinner. Looks like you have juveniles, I would also like to see another picture. A picture of the fishes profile would be better.
 
the smaller one does look a hint like a clarkii, but i suspect you were shipped appropriately identified chrys.

any more pictures? you should be closing in on the three day mark which is a good indicator of whether or not your fish will survive....i hope they are breathing normally and eating well!

They were shipped/labeled as Blue Stripe/Chrys on the invoice. I appologize in advance for the poor pictures. I only have a point and shoot camera.

This is the large..
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This is the small..
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Both together..
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Do I have Blue Stripes/Chrys or Clarkii?

They both have ate right after I introduce them in the tank. Today, they are attacking/fighting with the other fishes for food. Both have been eating Mysis, blood worms, table shrimp and brine shrimp. The only change I have noticed are their tails...it is more pointed than fully spread like normal. Also, they seemed to be hosting my Gionopora rather than my Gig.:-( Will they eventually host my Gig?
 
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I use formalin III at twice the base dose every other day for five days. I keep the water at 1.009 while I'm doing it and dose amquell as a preventative measure. I also lower the temp of the tank to around 75-76 to slow the O2 needs of the fish and the progression of the disease.
 
I use formalin III at twice the base dose every other day for five days. I keep the water at 1.009 while I'm doing it and dose amquell as a preventative measure. I also lower the temp of the tank to around 75-76 to slow the O2 needs of the fish and the progression of the disease.

I just picked up a bottle of Formalin. However, the label doesn't show or reads Formalin III. I did asked the LFS staff that I am looking for Formalin with 37%. The LFS staff replied was "it is the same thing." :-( Can I still use this "normal" Formalin that I just bought?

I was thinking of syphoning 5 gallons from my display to treat them. Will there be any issues?

I also read that there the water should be airated with an airstone. I am going to used a Tunze 6045. Will this be sufficient or an airstone is needed?

Thank you.
 
What does the label on the bottle say? Walt's suggestion is based on 3% solution. If you use 37% solution, the dosage should be 1ml/G for 1 hour. Repeat once a day for three days. Airstone will work. Tank water is fine. No heater in the treatment tank. Wear gloves.

See Calfo's suggestions on the second page of this thread for more info

http://www.marinebreeder.org/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=169&t=6418

Thank you, MarinaP!

The label reads Formalin. No other numbering/percentages on the label.

Airstone. Should I use this along with a small power head? Or the power head is not needed. I'm going to place them in a 5 gallon bucket.

No heater. It is really cold in my basement. Is there a recommended temperature range?
 
I use the Kordon brand but I don't see why it would be a problem to use another brand. My only concern would be to check to see if there is any other ingreedient.

Here's what I typically do for clowns....

Disease Prevention
The three most important things I know on this subject are:
1. Quarrantine
2. Quarrantine
3. Quarrantine

Supplies for QTs
- 10 gallon aquarium
- Power Filter rated for 40-50 gallons
- 50W heater
- Glass thermometer with suction cup
- Two 6" ceramic tiles or one 6" flower pot (for shelter)
- 50 gallon salt mix
- Two 5 gallon buckets (one for clean water one for dirty or medicated water)
- Glass canopy or 1 sheet of "eggcrate" lighting grid
- 1 pair small diaginal cutting pliars (for cutting the eggcrate to size.)

Optional items
- Aquarium stand
- strip light fixture (PCF if you plan to keep corals/anemones)
- Pre-Fabricated water syphon or 1/2" clear tubing from home depot.

Recommended Medications
- 1 bottle of Kordon's Formalin III
- 1 bottle of Coppersafe
- 1 bottle of Amquell

Set up the system and allow it to run for at least 24 hours so the temperature can stabilize. If temp adjustments are needed, adjust to the thermometer; not the heater dial.
When you are ready to add the fish, it is generally accepted practice to float the bag for 15 minutes to allow the temps to stabilize. Drain 50% of the water into a waste water bucket and refill the volume you took out with water from the QT. You should repeat this process two or more times. When you are ready to add the fish, dump almost all the water into the waste water bucket and pour the fish into the QT. I avoid using nets wherever possible to avoid scraping or rubbing off slime and scales. These kinds of minor damage can make fish more succeptable to infection.

I usually set the tank temp for 75-78 degrees F unless it's a specamin like A. latezonatus that requires cooler temps.

If you have a particularly fragile fish like A. chrysopterus or A. nigripes, I recommend setting the specific gravity to 1.009 in advance. Use a refractometer. Swing arm hydrometers can be grossly innacurate. Hypo-salinity will kill many of the paracites that live on our fish. It's referred to as osmotic shock therapy. As the title suggests, you want to shock the organisms you are trying to kill with a sudden change in osmotic pressure so they literally explode. This is not the case when returning to regular salinity. This should be done of the course of a few days. To do this I like to allow the QT to evaporate naturally. Instead of using fresh makeup water to keep it at the same SG I add saltwater to slowly bring the salinity back up.

Quarrantine should be performed for a minimum of one month after purchase or the last symptom of disease. Whichever is longer. I usually end up quarrantining fish for 90 days. 30 for inverts.

*Invertebrates and some scale-less fishes will not survive hyposalinity.

With clowns, the diseases you will want to be most cautious of are Brooklynella, Amyloodinium and Ick (in that order.) With fish that I know to be succeptable to brook or amyloo I automatically add Formalin III to the system. Otherwise, I look at their breathing, behavior and skin (in that order) a couple times each day. The hypo-salinity may well knock out any of these three diseases before they have a chance to take hold. However, I highly recommend having the above recommended meds on hand. If the hypo doesn't knock it out, you probably have a very aggressive case on your hands and time is critical.

*Please do not blame me if you loose fish with these methods. These methods have greatly improved survival rates of my fish but they're not 100% effective. It takes experience to properly diagnose diseases and even more experience to diagnose them early.
 
It says 37%. Just an airstone is enough. Temp above 70 is fine. Set up a QT, methinks we will be moving to prolonged immersion in Formalin soon :(
 
You are not correct. It is 37% I just looked it up for someone else who thought the same thing.

PRODUCT DESCRIPTION:
Formalin·3 is a convenient, pre-diluted form of formalin (37% formaldehyde solution) and is scientifically recognized as an effective medication for the treatment and control of the diseases caused by fungi, protozoans and monogenetic trematodes of freshwater and marine aquarium fishes. Formalin·3 will control or prevent diseases of fishes caused by the following disease organisms: Ichthyophthirius (freshwater "ich"), Costia, Chilodonella, Ambiphyra, Cryptocaryon (saltwater "ich"), Epistylis, Oodinium, Amyloodinium, and Trichodina. Formalin·3 is also effective against the common external fungal infections of fishes and their eggs caused by Achyla and Saprolegnia. Extensive literature exists which supports these disease treatment claims, as well as its use in the control of certain external bacterial infections.

Link - http://www.novalek.com/kordon/formalin/index.htm
 
Or are we speaking in two different languages??? If you say one product contains 37% formalin it is a lot different than saying 37% formaldahyde.
I'm willing to bet that they are wording it weird on this or other bottles. If they all say 37% formalin soln: they may be referring to the product they added to their mix.
I'd like to know the answer to this.

It also states that....

SPECIFICATIONS
Contains formaldehyde, less than 3% by weight derived from fisheries grade (CFC) formalin, in an aqueous solution. Made in the U.S.A.
Dosage: Use 1 teaspoon (approximately 5 ml) per 10 gallons of water for most treatments to achieve a concentration of 10 ppm. Formalin·3 may be used at twice the usual dosage, or 2 teaspoons per 10 gallons (see "Toxicity" and suggested "Treatment Procedures" for qualifying information). At the rate of 1 teaspoon per 10 gallons, 4 ounces of Formalin-3 will treat 240 gallons of water.
 
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