Breeding gobies

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11746539#post11746539 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice
But in my mind the hard part is getting them to lay eggs in the first place. That is the only part you can't force, or that you have little to no control over.

As Louis mentioned earlier, that is indeed the easy part for most any fish. Getting pairs is easy, setting up an environment to induce spawning is often as simple as looking at their natural breeding environmental conditions and replicating those in the lab. Oh, and of course heavy and nutritious feedings for the brood stock. Getting animals to breed is basically all about making them well fed and happy, than nature takes it course ;)

The trick to larval feeding is indeed the first foods. The easy fish to raise will take rots or artemia nauplii. However, most seem to need something else. Some fish larvae for instance specifically eat things like clam veligers or barnacle nauplii, etc. If you have ready access to natural seawater, than plankton tows to collect wild plankton can be very helpful in the case of fish that won't find rots acceptable as a first food.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11746539#post11746539 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LobsterOfJustice

Luis - So you mean to say that S. yashia HAS layed eggs in captivity, but no one has raised them? Is that correct?

But in my mind the hard part is getting them to lay eggs in the first place. That is the only part you can't force, or that you have little to no control over. After that there are 1001 different ways you can try to raise the larvae.

I guess I'm not 100% set on the S yashia but I think I would like to do some type of shrimp goby.

Yes,I recall Bandeng from Japan raised larvae up to 22 days and posted pics in the breeders forum.Sorry I can´t link without mod´s permission.:(

You are dragging a FW concept that doesn´t fit in SW breeding;) In FW fish could be easy or difficult to spawn,but the fry can be raised without too much trouble.SW are easy to spawn but very difficult to rear:)
 
How about Cryptocentrus aurora? They seem more like watchman gobies, which have been done, (same genus) so they might be easier? Have they been done?

Can you tell what my source is for these fish is yet? :)

The only reason I am thinking that way is I have two clowns in my tank... they havent spawned in the 4 years I've had them. I also have a group of anthias which dont spawn (although I know that is a completely different story).
 
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Well,clowns are the exception,see recent thread about non spawning clowns.
If you keep a nice adult group of anthias in good condition,they might be possibly spawning every night when lights go off,and you can´t notice.Same happens with other pelagic spawners.
 
I think I might go with the aurora. They are in the same genus as YWGs, so I think if those have been done successfully I will have a better chance with them than the Stonogobiops.
 
My pair of A. aurora are arriving this saturday! Originally I had ordered them because they were in the same genus as YWG, which have been done successfully, but it turns out they aren't, so we'll see what happens.

Updated photo of their home:

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Made a top out of egg crate. I believe I am going to add a layer of fiberglass window screen on top of this for extra protection. However, I don't want the screening to cut down on too much light (remember, this is also a refugium).

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Yeah, but they arent nearly as interesting as a pair of shrimp gobies and a shrimp :) . I'm not necessarily looking for something easy to breed... more like something interesting, that I might be able to breed too.
 
Hi,I have breed these fish . They have even smaller eggs than yellow watchman. I am Amy Drehmel. I am sorry I did not respond to your message. I moved last year. Had to move 130 fish tanks. And seperated from my husband. In short I have been busy. I wish I had more time to post. I sell watchman all the time. I make alot more money on clownfish. Fish stores never pay what fish are worth ( in terms of the time and trouble ). i am glad you like gobies but they take more time to grow than clownfish. These gobies are like yellow watchman in terms of breeding and rearing.

Amy
 
I forgot to say that these gobies are more likely to eat their eggs. Also the egg mass ( white eggs hanging for the top of a cave) does not always stick well and sometimes falls to the bottom. It could just be my pair though. The babies need green water and s rotifers. I have paired them up easy. Just put two together.
 
Hey, thanks for the reply. Good to know they are similar to YWG... greenwater and s rotifers sounds do-able.

And an update on these guys... yesterday they decided to make a home under the coral skeleton in the front of the tank... except the entrance was facing the back of the tank, so even when they came out I couldn't see them. So I made up a new rule: as the all powerful human in the relationship, I reserve the right to edit the burrow so I can see the gobies I payed $100 for :) So I tried to turn the burrow around, but ended up just destroying it. They spent today trying to make a burrow under a wad of cheatomorpha, but it moved, so they will have to find yet another new place.

They ate last night as well.
 
Anyone want to help me out with these two questions?

1. How do you pronounce Amblyeleotris?
2. Is the larger of the two female or male?
 
I can not tell how to pronounce anything in this business. Everyone says things different around here. As for the sex of the fish, it could go either way. usually my females are larger but that is not always the case. You will know who is what when the female is ripe. In my yellow watchman article I said the female is the grey one . Now I have a pair where the female is yellow and the male is grey. Most of the time if you buy two shrimp gobies they will form a pair no matter what size. I spoke with a lady from the international goby society, she believes all (watchman type gobies) carry the ability to be either sex. In other words just put two together. This has been my experience as well. I think the fish work out who will be what and that is why color and size vary. Amy
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=11875337#post11875337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by oceanarus
I can not tell how to pronounce anything in this business. Everyone says things different around here.

Same thing happens in the halls of academia. Except in that case, every professor swears their pronunciation is the right one and the other proff is wrong :lol:

On the sex question, I agree with the lady from the international goby society. Not just watchman gobies either, but several other genera of gobies I've had pair up just by throwing any random two into a tank together. The ability to change sex is quite common in marine fish, so this isn't surprising.
 
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