Brian's 270 Starphire

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Good luck Brian and its a beauty :)
 
I figured you where :). How's the remodeling going in the basement?

Heh, Not very well. I can't get my wife to pull the trigger on the kitchen cabinets. Since I am a carpenter and can do all this stuff myself I am starting to get ansy. Once the kitchen is done then I can start looking into the basement.
New drop ceiling, carpet,VCT, and a fishroom.
I started getting some corals in till then. Some cool trades for my red dragon acro.
 
love venustus a great fish and that one looks really healthy good catch!

Thanks! I'm really hope it works out, but time will tell.

Heh, Not very well. I can't get my wife to pull the trigger on the kitchen cabinets. Since I am a carpenter and can do all this stuff myself I am starting to get ansy. Once the kitchen is done then I can start looking into the basement.
New drop ceiling, carpet,VCT, and a fishroom.
I started getting some corals in till then. Some cool trades for my red dragon acro.

I hear you, i have a few projects that I'm waiting to get the final ok myself. Sometime planning them is the worst part.

Are you going to MMMC swap next month?
 
Thanks! I'm really hope it works out, but time will tell.



I hear you, i have a few projects that I'm waiting to get the final ok myself. Sometime planning them is the worst part.

Are you going to MMMC swap next month?

Looks like it, Never know 100% till the week before.
Every time i go to lansing it is snowing and ice all over the roads.
 
Looks like it, Never know 100% till the week before.
Every time i go to lansing it is snowing and ice all over the roads.

I hear you with the road. I think for the last 4 years there has been a snow storm on the day of the swap. Either way i'll see you there.
 
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Thanks Ryan! While Centropyge venustus are not the rarest or most expensive fish. They are one of the most difficult fish to find healthy. I have had my eye on this one for 8 weeks. Making my fallow process even harder, know that I could have it.

Thanks to a few good friend at a LSF, that I use to work at, they held on to this fish for me. I have to say that they did a pretty nice job. She eats all food offered with a gusto! Now this doesn't mean that that it clear sail for here on out, but it's off to a good start. Now on to the fish....

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This has to be the coolest looking angel I've ever seen. Good luck with her, I hope she sticks to eating! Have you introduced her into your dt yet? A new pic would be sweet.
 
I know what you mean, sometimes you think you have everything figured out and a problem still sneaks up on you. I had three yellow tangs in my QT tank that were doing great with each other, until all three died overnight of what appeared to be deoxygenation. I felt horrible. Two weeks later I saw another three tangs all in one tank with eachother, so I decided to bring them home and try it again, this time with a large airstone and with the fish room door open to the rest of the house at all times. Again, the fish did great with each other and in general, but a week afterwards I watched all three succumb to labored breathing and bloody bruises on theirs sides within the course of twelve hours. I feel atrocious at this loss of life, but all tests on the QT turned up negative for any warning signs. At this point it must be something toxic or parasitic in the water, but since theres no way to test for that I am taking a page from your book and fallowing my QT for eight weeks...

I would introduce the fish straight into the main tank. I'm not a fan of QT. It seems like people lose more fish by QTing. If a fish comes down with a bacterial infection or fungus then I would take the fish out and QT otherwise they go straight into the DT.

I feel placing fish into a QT puts a lot of stress on the fish. Adequate WC are usually not accomplished. Releasing the fish into a clean setup with ample swimming room right off the bat works best for me.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone. Everyone does things differently and this is what I choose to do. hth
 
Yeah, I never QT'd any fish before my tank move last year. Now with my fish room i;ve ot 3 QT tanks. I noticed just a tiny bit of ich so I want to be proactive and qt all the fish and leave the tank fallow for 8 weeks. I know what you mean about wanting to be sure about the health of fish when you start spending some real change! especially with fish that are hard to get again, i.e. true personifer, HEALTHY Multibar trio/Venustus, conspic ect...

Ich is prevalent in the ocean and on every fish. If a fish undergoes stress, for example a temp change, that's when it will come out. Nothing to worry about just keep up with your consistent wc's and feed well. You'll see a complete reversal. Freshwater ich is not like saltwater ich. If you have a few decent cleaners like cleaner shrimp, neon gobys, and cleaner wrasses then this will help the fish.

The eradication of ich in a closed system is an impossible feat to achieve IMO No matter what you will be adding fish in time and one of the fish is bound to bring some sort of parasite with him.

My buddy has a powder blue who will be caked in ich every blue moon. He will feed him garlic soaked algae/mysis and see a complete reversal within a matter of days.
 
This has to be the coolest looking angel I've ever seen. Good luck with her, I hope she sticks to eating! Have you introduced her into your dt yet? A new pic would be sweet.

Thanks! I'll try to get a few pics soon. As for putting him in the display, he still need to go though QT ;).

I would introduce the fish straight into the main tank. I'm not a fan of QT. It seems like people lose more fish by QTing. If a fish comes down with a bacterial infection or fungus then I would take the fish out and QT otherwise they go straight into the DT.

I feel placing fish into a QT puts a lot of stress on the fish. Adequate WC are usually not accomplished. Releasing the fish into a clean setup with ample swimming room right off the bat works best for me.

I'm not disagreeing with anyone. Everyone does things differently and this is what I choose to do. hth

Well, there are some strong feel on whether one should QT or not. In the end it is your choose.

I do feel that there are some misconceptions on QT's. For one there is a learning curve when first do it, I don't feel that you lose more fish by QT. If done right the risk are minimal. Also this give newly acquired fish time to adapt. You are able to make sure they are eat and getting the enough food to build up fat reserve for when they are add to the display.

A question for you; so what do you do if a newly acquired fish spreads disease? I think that if anything this thread should be a prime example on why you should QT. My 10 weeks fallow was nether cheap nor fun.

Personally I spend to much time and money to put all my fish at risk, just not to QT them. JMO :).

If I get a fish who is specific on what they eat or somewhat delicate I'll put him in my sump to fatten him up.

One again you still put the rest of you fish at risk disease by doing this.

Ich is prevalent in the ocean and on every fish. If a fish undergoes stress, for example a temp change, that's when it will come out. Nothing to worry about just keep up with your consistent wc's and feed well.

Well, I feel the WC's and feeding well does help, but it will not rid of ich, trust me I do plenty of WC's and feed more than most and it did nothing to rid of my ich.

You'll see a complete reversal. Freshwater ich is not like saltwater ich. If you have a few decent cleaners like cleaner shrimp, neon gobys, and cleaner wrasses then this will help the fish.

You might want to read this:
Marine Ich - Myths and Facts

The eradication of ich in a closed system is an impossible feat to achieve IMO No matter what you will be adding fish in time and one of the fish is bound to bring some sort of parasite with him.

My buddy has a powder blue who will be caked in ich every blue moon. He will feed him garlic soaked algae/mysis and see a complete reversal within a matter of days.

I hope to prove this wrong. And after talking to many well experience people in the hobby and other that do this for a living, I feel it can be done. Time will tell.
 
Ich is prevalent in the ocean and on every fish. If a fish undergoes stress, for example a temp change, that's when it will come out. Nothing to worry about just keep up with your consistent wc's and feed well. You'll see a complete reversal. Freshwater ich is not like saltwater ich. If you have a few decent cleaners like cleaner shrimp, neon gobys, and cleaner wrasses then this will help the fish.

The eradication of ich in a closed system is an impossible feat to achieve IMO No matter what you will be adding fish in time and one of the fish is bound to bring some sort of parasite with him.

My buddy has a powder blue who will be caked in ich every blue moon. He will feed him garlic soaked algae/mysis and see a complete reversal within a matter of days.


Sorry, but I do not agree. I've been doing this for quite a while now and have some rare and expensive fish. Absolutly NO fish will go into my tank until it has been QT'd. I've done the dump and hope approach (what you are suggesting) and the QT approach, and I'll stick with my way.

There is some very good evidence that contradicts what you suggest. If you think having any fish "caked" with a parasite is ok or a healthy sign, you are mistaken.

You may want to think of the quote from another reefer that goes something like this...

Dont strive for your animals to survive, strive for them to Thrive!
 
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