Brightwell Aquatics NeoZeo method.

Mike, good luck with it. I think you'll like it better than the "other" system you used to run. PM me with any questions.
 
I will PM you with questions ;) I am sure. Right now with what I am using I am seeing some positive results. After I dose the Biofuel the water gets super clear and the skimmer is pulling out really dark skimmate.

I am getting ready to also change to using the RHF two part with a profilux doser. I am hoping to add another unit next month to manage the BW additives.
 
I don't run it, yet, still awaiting the Zeolite, went with Elos Zeolite, instead of Brightwell's, but it will be here Friday.
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be extremely careful with the Elos zeolite. It is very strong and can easily cause your corals to bleach from the stripped water column (light penetration). I once accidentally killed some corals from using this stuff, so just be warned.
 
right now I am only using the MB7 / Biofuel and gettting results. I am however going ahead with the method with the stones once everything I need arrives.
 
Hi All,

I've started the NeoZeo method today after trying just about everything else in the reef world. My system is recovering (nicely) from a high nutrient condition at the beginning of the year, but it's not what I'd call successful at this point.

I've been dosing bac and vodka for about 4 months with halfway decent results. I bought the reactor (vertex) and the stones to try the full method. Interestingly, I'm seeing some good changes already, although the results may be from some other changes over the last couple of days.

I have a question. English is my first language, but... I'm a little confused about the week 2 instructions.

I've added 400g of stones for 200gal net water. Flow is about 25gal/hr. I know I keep the flow the same for week 2, but do I add another 400g of stones after week 1? I also know that I add stone weekly after that.

Thanks,
Ed
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15361753#post15361753 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Canarygirl
be extremely careful with the Elos zeolite. It is very strong and can easily cause your corals to bleach from the stripped water column (light penetration). I once accidentally killed some corals from using this stuff, so just be warned.
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Am well aware it is extremely potent stuff.

Spoke with Jesse from Elos on the phone, twice, yesterday.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15374813#post15374813 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by HotHotHot


I've added 400g of stones for 200gal net water. Flow is about 25gal/hr. I know I keep the flow the same for week 2, but do I add another 400g of stones after week 1? I also know that I add stone weekly after that.

Thanks,
Ed
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I am on the 2nd week and interpreted the instructions to mean to add 200 grams per 100 gal for each of the first five weeks. Which makes sense since the small box of NeoZeo adds up to that sum - 1,000grams.
 
I got the Fluval today and have the NeoZeo in it. I have been dosing the MB7 fora few weeks without the stones. My PO4 is 0.03-0.04 on a HAnna meter and I have no measureable Nitrate in the system. I have a Sulfur Denitrator hooked up right now as well. I am leary of disconnecting it all together right now. I think I will start reducing the media amount instead and see how this works.
 
Careful skippyreef... I would take everything offline, wait a day or two, then introduce the system as per spec. You will be surprised at how fast the zeo media removes ammonia. I have been in for 9 months running the full system and still am learning of the balance factor of all the systems offerings. My new tank was setup running the system. My corals and inhabitants came from a smaller tank running prodibio with VSV and a few zeo supps... Be careful to watch for bleaching or loss of color during the transistion... GL...
 
Thanks for the insight. I have a dual chamber Denitrator set up running so I am going to take chamber one off line today. SO I should stop dosing all together with the BW and then restart per spec in a few days?
 
I think the key is to get the denitrator offline if you plan on running the stones. The PDF intructions are on this thread to establishing, or seeding the stones or startup if you will. A day or 2 offline with the denitrator should not harm anything, the stones will quickly get you back down, pay close attention, my corals lightened quite a bit during this time, I increased feedings and added oyster eggs and aminos during this time. I would wait 6 weeks before adding anything other than aminos, mb7, and BF. Once you get there, start introducing vit c and pottasion, I now use at least 15 different supplements....GL
 
Anybody else using this system to reduce nuisance algae? I've seen the before/after pics and the tanks look pretty clean to begin with. I've got HA, cyano, and since the loss of my rabbitfish bubble algae and bryopsis. I have greatly reduced my nutrient inputs, and am up to 40 ml Bio-fuel per day. The cyano seems a bit reduced and coral color fading, but still the other nuisance algae persists. Nutrient levels are undetectable. It seems this is becoming more of a problem for the sps than the algae. Any suggestions? I bought the big bottle of bio fuel, and when its gone if there is no effect on the algae I'm done with carbon dosing, and going back to more natural methods. I'm also running the Neozeo stones in a reactor, and dosing MB7, but I've reduced the bacteria to 10 ml ( was up to 20 ml ) per day figuring there's already enough bacteria in there.
 
I'm been dosing 10ml of Bio fuel in my tank for a month and haven't really noticed my Phosphates dropping one bit, still .12 ppm. Just uped it to 15ml of Bio fuel see if that makes a difference, it it doesn't I think I'll go to Vodka maybe the bacteria will like that better as a carbon fuel source.

Has anyone had good results with dosing biofuel?

Jason
 
I started using the Neozeo method several months ago. I was having I nutrient issues conditioning the Mandarins for breeding. Alot of my corals where starting to brown out. I had a idaho grape monticap that was brown and My pink birdsnest was almost completly brown. I have a 28gal nano cube. I dose 5drps MB7, 5drps RBF, 9 drops replenish, 6drps Koral color, 6drps coral amino, 1drp iodion, 6drps phtocrome, 5drps Kroralle-vm, 2drps vitamin 2 and a few others I cant think of at teh moment all nightly. My Idaho grape came back thankfully to a beautifull purple with bright blue polyps. My Pink birds nest is a dark pink instead of the pastels that some people get. I still maintain a high nutrient system but this method really helps keep it under control.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15396862#post15396862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by graveyardworm
Anybody else using this system to reduce nuisance algae?
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I am. Not quite using the NeoZeo rocks. The Elos rocks are FAR more efficient. Still dosing MB7 though.


I think I am battling red slime algae. It's a stringy, thin red algae on the sandbed. No where else. Been dosing API AlgaeFix (3rd dose), removing carbon/zeo for 12 hours and then reintroducing.



I looked/found the "Zeo" system(s) because of this. Well, thought of using GFO, then a little more research popped up this system.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15396862#post15396862 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by graveyardworm
Anybody else using this system to reduce nuisance algae? I've seen the before/after pics and the tanks look pretty clean to begin with. I've got HA, cyano, and since the loss of my rabbitfish bubble algae and bryopsis. I have greatly reduced my nutrient inputs, and am up to 40 ml Bio-fuel per day. The cyano seems a bit reduced and coral color fading, but still the other nuisance algae persists. Nutrient levels are undetectable. It seems this is becoming more of a problem for the sps than the algae. Any suggestions? I bought the big bottle of bio fuel, and when its gone if there is no effect on the algae I'm done with carbon dosing, and going back to more natural methods. I'm also running the Neozeo stones in a reactor, and dosing MB7, but I've reduced the bacteria to 10 ml ( was up to 20 ml ) per day figuring there's already enough bacteria in there.
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If you have recently started the neozeo method give it time to reduce your nutrients. You may have no measurable nutrients but they may be tied up in the rocks and algae which is why you don't get any readings.

Now for the funky part, to get rid of the cyano you have to stop dosing the bacteria and biofuel because that is feeding the cyano which is a bacteria. Aerate your water in your sump with an airstone and direct your powerheads to break the water's surface. If you can get your hands on oxygen salts or tablets this will help get rid of the cyano
 
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