Brightwell Salt.

All those zeroes, and every number except Cl matching up with NSW precisely. Huh. I put myself through flight school about a hundred years ago working in a lab as a water and wastewater analyst (my degree is in chemistry), and I was EPA certified in cyanide and total organic carbon analysis.

It does seem to me to be a bit of a stretch to have that kind of precision in the numbers, and to match up that closely with NSW. Maybe a cut-n-paste typo? They should at least post +/- ranges... that's a beef I have with Reef Crystals (which I use) as well.
 
25 KG of ACS reagent grade NaCl costs over $200. He must be passing along some really great savings to us hobbyists...
 
I think, kask, it is more on the order that as a bucket goes buy they put a grain or two in of ACS :lol: Take note that is say "contains". I read elsewhere it was "made from"
 
I can't believe that they would actually list that as there values. I find it very hard to believe thats accurate. Every single value except 1 was totally the same as NSW to the third decimal point. Come on.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15431651#post15431651 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boomer
I think, kask, it is more on the order that as a bucket goes buy they put a grain or two in of ACS :lol: Take note that is say "contains". I read elsewhere it was "made from"

:lol: :lol:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15431994#post15431994 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
I can't believe that they would actually list that as there values. I find it very hard to believe thats accurate. Every single value except 1 was totally the same as NSW to the third decimal point. Come on.

Still curious as to what it really tests to when mixed @ 1.025.

Bogus or not, I want to believe its a quality salt. But its looking harder to believe. :(
 
I'm sure they mean 1.025 Sg. So if you raise the Sg to 1.026 / 35 ppt, then all ions would increase by ~ 4 %
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15434645#post15434645 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boomer
I'm sure they mean 1.025 Sg. So if you raise the Sg to 1.026 / 35 ppt, then all ions would increase by ~ 4 %

Those numbers are for 1.025. So running 1.026/1.027 would be ok then..

I want to e-mail CB and see if he has the exact lab these were taken from. I'd like to see some sort of paperwork certifying the salt before I take the plunge.

And users feedback/opinions are greatly appreciated. :rollface:
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15488875#post15488875 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by serenity
any updates on this?

+1

Been using TM since I started reefing with great results. I was thinking of giving this a try.
 
I e-mailed Chris Monday, haven't heard back from him.

Asked him what lab(s) were used to confirm the testing, and if he has any physical paperwork that can be scanned/copied for us to see.

I will put my pennies on it, that this is a quality salt. Just not maybe as "perfect" as we are hoping for.


Marinedepot also has the 50g buckets for $28 + $6 S&H.



I'll be buying the 50g bucket when I get my extra pennies together and will be using regardless. I would like to see which lab(s) were used to test the salt and get those readings. So far, no response.

USUALLY, he responds daily, so my guess is he's really busy.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15432167#post15432167 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by iFisch
Still curious as to what it really tests to when mixed @ 1.025.

Bogus or not, I want to believe its a quality salt. But its looking harder to believe. :(

Please let us know what the parameters are from the salt you bought from marine depot!
 
Yeah I am in the process of setting up a 75 and need sand and salt still left to buy I am close to premium so I won't have to pay shipping and have used a lot of different salts and wanted to start with top quality from the start, I would have to guess the numbers sound a little "too good" but if they are even close I would be very happy! I spoke with Jeremy at pa yesterday and he thinks it is good salt but like us only time will tell. I have yet to see many people post up numbers and that is a tad scary to me i'd hate to spend $60 on salt that may not be as good as I/O, tunxe, d&d, etc.
 
I know what you mean. Several people in this thread and others said things like "I have it on order" or "I have a batch mixing now". I am curious as to why nobody has posted the numbers from there batches.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15494526#post15494526 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by luther1200
I know what you mean. Several people in this thread and others said things like "I have it on order" or "I have a batch mixing now". I am curious as to why nobody has posted the numbers from there batches.

+1. I am going to order the 50g bucket in about 2 weeks, regardless.


A) I am not sure why Chris hasn't responded to my e-mail. Usually he responds within 24 hours.

B) I wish we had more info on this salt, other than it's "supposed" to be very good.
 
Because he can NEVER come up with such a data sheet, to 1/1000 ppm accuracy of his salt vs NSW. Meaning, the exact same numbers. I do not know who he is trying to fool, be it a very good salt or not. If Randy saw this he would be all over it like I am.

What do you mean a lot of their products look bogus? Like which products?

1. This salt has bogus numbers

2. Their Kalk +2. Any Kalk has about the same % of Mg ++ and Sr ++ impurities.

3. Liquid Reef. You cannot dissolve Aragonite in reef tanks at the levels we run them at. The Aragonite power floats around and is picked up when you run a Ca ++ or Alk tests. The Aragonite dissolves in the rest kit reagent and gives false high readings.

There are many companies that sell products with these claims. Many of BA products are more or less copies of the same products he use to do for Kent Marine when he worked there. So, think Kent Marine with allot of new marketing and a few new additions. So, there is really nothing "more " special about them. He has a over all nice line and Kent is sort of fading away so to speak.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15497421#post15497421 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Boomer
Because he can NEVER come up with such a data sheet, to 1/1000 ppm accuracy of his salt vs NSW. Meaning, the exact same numbers. I do not know who he is trying to fool, be it a very good salt or not. If Randy saw this he would be all over it like I am.

What do you mean a lot of their products look bogus? Like which products?

1. This salt has bogus numbers

2. Their Kalk +2. Any Kalk has about the same % of Mg ++ and Sr ++ impurities.

3. Liquid Reef. You cannot dissolve Aragonite in reef tanks at the levels we run them at. The Aragonite power floats around and is picked up when you run a Ca ++ or Alk tests. The Aragonite dissolves in the rest kit reagent and gives false high readings.

There are many companies that sell products with these claims. Many of BA products are more or less copies of the same products he use to do for Kent Marine when he worked there. So, think Kent Marine with allot of new marketing and a few new additions. So, there is really nothing "more " special about them. He has a over all nice line and Kent is sort of fading away so to speak.

Boomer, I appreciate you chiming in again.


Aside from the obvious, what we're talking about here, I was curious as to what other products he sold were "bogus".

I just can't believe he would potentially put his reputation on the line, over a salt.


Anyways, I JUST bought Liquid Reef. And since I have very little to no marine chemistry knowledge, these are the things that stuck out to me.


"# Complete source of the elements and molecules that are directly used by corals, clams, and other reef-building invertebrates and organisms to create skeletal material and grow.

# Provides calcium (140,000 ppm), strontium, magnesium, and potassium in approximately the same ratios* in which they occur in aragonite.

# Very strong source of carbonates (derived from aragonite), the other important group of ions involved in aragonite formation.
# Increases alkalinity to help stabilize pH. "


So in order for this product to be effective, if at all, it needs to be over-dosed?

I don't understand this part of your very informative reply:


"You cannot dissolve Aragonite in reef tanks at the levels we run them at."


All-in-all, is LR completely useless or does it actually have a beneficial use?


And Boomer, one more question.


Would you try this salt? Bogus numbers or not? If not, what salt would you choose, if you could choose any salt out there? I am thinking this salt and DD H20cean. Maybe a combo of both?


I am looking forward to your reply.

Thanks so much!





-Nick :rollface:
 
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