Bristle worm help

Get a six line wrasse. That should hunt all the small ones enough to ensure the population doesn't get out of hand and you likely won't see them anymore as they don't come out when predators are in the tank as much. They do eat extra nutrients and make for fat happy wrasses.


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PoorPluto said:
Get a six line wrasse. That should hunt all the small ones enough to ensure the population doesn't get out of hand and you likely won't see them anymore as they don't come out when predators are in the tank as much. They do eat extra nutrients and make for fat happy wrasses.


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It's a 5g tank, even if I thought that would be big enough for a sixline(which I don't) it would be the only thing you'd be able to keep.

After that vid I last posted comes on the myth buster kid, and agree w/ his comment, small bristles, great, not harmful, but too many or too big, they can actually be a problem, saw that first hand on what they were doing to my anemone, and the immediate recovery after pulling those 2 foot long monsters
 
a 2 foot stretched out bristle worm is fine for even a tiny tank. Worms can stretch huge amounts. 1" pulled into itself because you poked it can stretch out to 6 inches, but its thin.

I just think people :

a) misunderstand them, like a LOT of things in this hobby. Especially people who remove them "because they look gross" detritus, fish poop, that fish that died inside your rock are all gross too.
b) don't realize the amazing benefit they actually provide to their mini ecosystem and how vital they actually are.
c) never grasp that their numbers are directly influenced by how you feed your tank. If you over feed for years you end up with **** like that video with em dripping down. They populate according to the resources and space given.

Anyway, my comment was mostly because people think they see one big worm and remove it that they "got em" and that will be that. Generally if you see one, especially a big one, there are 31258247592385294 others of various sizes in your system.

There are also a ton of different species, a lot that look almost exactly the same. Some prefer sand, some rocks, etc. Unlike snails and crabs which have very specific areas of cleaning, the creepy crawlies like this eat all sorts of crazy stuff. From poop to decaying fish and missed food, etc.
 
I'm one of the few who try and keep them out. Dip everything, got a frag while back, started the dip, out a 6" came. Also ton of brittles. I quick saved the brittles not the bristle. I could not keep snails of any kind in a previous tank, right or wrong, I always blamed the Bristle.
 
you cant get rid of bristleworms without nuking the whole tank and staring over. And even if you did, theyd come back on the next piece of live rock, macro, or frag anyway.

But that doesnt excuse use from exercising correct logic. The often repeated statement that theyre beneficial or harmless is utter nonsense, since all tanks have them and we cant really compare a tank with and without them. The statement that they only eat things that are sick or dying is likewise nonsense, since its not falsifiable as written. Any time you report bristleworms attacking an animal (which I've seen many times) someone will claim "thats because that animal was actually sick anyway".

People who exercise such poor logic should not be listened to on any subject.

The most accurate statement about bristleworms is "some people consider them harmful, and some beneficial, but you cant really get rid of them anyway so probably best to accept their presence".
 
Finally got it!!! Also i ****ed on it too!
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3 Pages of people talking right past a kid who has no interest in considering what input anyone has lol
 
sde1500 said:
3 Pages of people talking right past a kid who has no interest in considering what input anyone has lol
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Subject to interpretation I guess, I see 3 pages of people trying to tell op to keep something he does not like to look at in his own tank!

It's his tank, he does not like looking at it, he asked for advice in ridding it, not convince him to learn to like it.
Removing it does no harm to his tank.
 
All the worms can stay in my tank. I have keep marine tanks since 1980 and have never seen a problem worm. I the early days, I used a reverse flow UGF and purposely get bristle worms to put in the dolomite substrate. Got my very first worms from Fintique, a LFS in San Antonio. The sale person thinks I was crazy when I tried to get him to scoop up some gravel with these worms in it. I even remember he did what I asked only because I was buying a French angel at the time.
 
EMeyer said:
you cant get rid of bristleworms without nuking the whole tank and staring over. And even if you did, theyd come back on the next piece of live rock, macro, or frag anyway.

But that doesnt excuse use from exercising correct logic. The often repeated statement that theyre beneficial or harmless is utter nonsense, since all tanks have them and we cant really compare a tank with and without them. The statement that they only eat things that are sick or dying is likewise nonsense, since its not falsifiable as written. Any time you report bristleworms attacking an animal (which I've seen many times) someone will claim "thats because that animal was actually sick anyway".

People who exercise such poor logic should not be listened to on any subject.

The most accurate statement about bristleworms is "some people consider them harmful, and some beneficial, but you cant really get rid of them anyway so probably best to accept their presence".
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That logic doesn't make sense. There is definitive science behind the mouth parts of common bristle worms and how they don't even have the capabilities to kill things like people love to claim here.

There are a TON of species of bristle worms. There ARE predatory species but they are not very common in our tanks. All fire worms are bristle worms, but all bristle worms are not fire worms. If anything it's a lot more likely that people are mistaking what they are seeing in their tanks because they don't understand everything that's going on, or are not identifying their worms correctly.
 
OrionN said:
All the worms can stay in my tank. I have keep marine tanks since 1980 and have never seen a problem worm. I the early days, I used a reverse flow UGF and purposely get bristle worms to put in the dolomite substrate. Got my very first worms from Fintique, a LFS in San Antonio. The sale person thinks I was crazy when I tried to get him to scoop up some gravel with these worms in it. I even remember he did what I asked only because I was buying a French angel at the time.
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I just got back into the hobby after a 7 year break (after breaking my custom built tank during a move. meeeh) and as I tried to get my new nano up and running I too went around to different LFS's trying to get the micro life to seed my tank with lol. I failed 3 out of 3 times to get bristle worms, all with strange looks from people and employees.

Thankfully I'm a part of a good local reefer scene so I was able to post in some groups and meet up with someone for some lol. Now I just need some mini brittle stars and mini fan worms. ISPF is a neat place to buy that stuff but they are sooooooo expeeenssiiiveee..
 
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