Brooklynella

[Ron Popeil]

Where are we with modern treatments for this? Have there been any advancements with acclimation and QT procedures for our notoriously sensitive rare species? Is it always brooklynella that causes the heavy breathing, extended gills, sunken eyes, stiff fins and then death typically within 72 hours of arrival? Why is it 72 hours?

I have tried extended FW dips, FW dips with formalin, depressed salinity, depressed salinity with copper, normal salinity with formalin, low temperatures, completely dark QT tanks, UV sterilizers, QT with anemones....

All with severely depressing results.

Any suggestions on how we can move forward with figuring out how to treat this extremely expensive parasite?

I remember Blue Life Safety Stop claimed brooklynella as something it treated. Any personal experiences?

Lets discuss!

 

[Reefvette]

Ron

Ron

I saw the same stuff from Blue Life. Ive been waiting till i cant get it around here to try it.


Ive actually been suprised lately cause i havent seen many clowns come in lookin sickly like that.

 

[Ron Popeil]

it just baffles me that there was some intense research into AEFW and treatment methods, there have been advancing in treating SPS red bugs, antibiotic treatment of anemones....and yet...nothing on this incredible stain on the collection of rare clowns.

i just wonder how much longer formalin and a shrug will be the response to how to effectively treat brooklynella.

 

[Reefvette]

I tend to have more luck with direct ship clowns going right into tank with anemones.

But there are times when formalin and some good food with garlic with works too.

No one cares.

 

[Ron Popeil]

what is the formalin method you use? what would you say your success level is with it?

do you use it proactively?
have you used it once the clowns start breathing heavily?

what has been your level of success with both?

 

[Ron Popeil]

anyone have any ideas for unconventional medications to try?

are there any links to scientific study of the brooklynella parasite?

 

[Ron Popeil]

does anyone have any connections to fish pathologists or anyone in public aquariums working with new fish arrivals?

 

[OrionN]

Roh,
I feel for you. We can ID the parasite but not able to come up with effective treatment of it.

 

[worm5406]

On Mar 1, 2013, at 11:49 AM, "WoRm" <worm5406 @ dot com> wrote:

Can you advise on if/how Safety Stop works in regards to Brooklynella.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2265931

Thank you.

Ariel Freudenthal <ariel@bluelifeusa.com>
4:33 PM

to me
It will reduce the amount of brooklynella dramatically.



Ariel Freudenthal
Managing Partner
Blue Life USA
(702)445-3532
Ariel@bluelifeusa.com
www.bluelifeusa.com

 

[Ron Popeil]

thank you worm! i will play around with this product and see what happens.

 

[ezhoops]

Did you lose something recently?

Let us know how the blue life works?

 

[Ron Popeil]

there have been some set backs to my collection recently and i have been trying new specimens with some major failures. im just ready to have a solution to this problem already.

i will have some new fish over the next few weeks and will be trying different methods of medication.

 

[MarinaP]

What was your protocol?

 

[Ron Popeil]

i plan on keep much more accurate records this go around.

i use 10 gallon aquariums, hang on the back filters, 100w heaters and an assortment of PVC or plastic plants.

i tend to use salinities around 1.015 and temperatures of 75 degree F.

typically i start with a 3 to 5 minute freshwater dip.

i have used copper, 1 drop per gallon and this has helped in a number of cases.
i have used formalin 37%, 2 drops per gallon and this appears to be helping with a small chrysopterus juvenile.

i do 25-50% water changes every two days. i dose with prime daily to eliminate ammonia.

rarely is any method consistently effective, and more often than not seemingly useless.

I plan on doing a much more structured series of QT procedures with detailed notes over the next few weeks. suggestions welcome.

 

[MarinaP]

i have used formalin 37%, 2 drops per gallon

I would employ more aggressive approach. Formalin is a known treatment and it works.

1ml/G up to 60 min bath daily for 3 days or every other day for a week, depending on the severity of the problem.

Or in mild cases

0.1ml/G continous exposure with 50% WC on alternate days for 3-5 days.

WDLV's site has detailed QT overview with treatment options that he developed based on my approach.

 

[Ron Popeil]

thanks no1fishman, i purchased that book and look forward to going through it. i also received my safety stop and potentially some new fish tomorrow to start working with.

marina, thank you for the concise dosage information. i am seeing some positive results with a lone juvenile ive been working with for two weeks using formalin. in the past this has never been so. ill keep some notes and get back to you.

 

[jaycapz]

I am working through an outbreak myself. I'm new to the hobby, learning my lessons the hard way.

I lost one clown 12 hours after first signs. Second clown showed symptoms hours later. Treated with two fw dips (two consecutive days) for two minutes, now in QT 3 days of quick cure (malachite green/formalin). Plan to do one last fw dip tomorrow and end treatment. He seems ok 3 days in, no symptoms.

 

[jaycapz]

Just a quick update.

Its been almost 3 weeks now, and the treatment I used on my clown seems to have held up. 3 days of quick cure direct in QT tank, 50% water change on 4th day. FW dip on days 1,2 & 4.

I am just in the hunt for a solution myself for how to deal with the tank - sand, LR, crabs.

 

[Daniel62]

WDLV's site please> anyone have a link.

Thanks
Daniel

 

[cbatterman]

Update Please

Update Please

i plan on keep much more accurate records this go around.

i use 10 gallon aquariums, hang on the back filters, 100w heaters and an assortment of PVC or plastic plants.

i tend to use salinities around 1.015 and temperatures of 75 degree F.

typically i start with a 3 to 5 minute freshwater dip.

i have used copper, 1 drop per gallon and this has helped in a number of cases.
i have used formalin 37%, 2 drops per gallon and this appears to be helping with a small chrysopterus juvenile.

i do 25-50% water changes every two days. i dose with prime daily to eliminate ammonia.

rarely is any method consistently effective, and more often than not seemingly useless.

I plan on doing a much more structured series of QT procedures with detailed notes over the next few weeks. suggestions welcome.

Can you tell us the results of what you have tried .. did you add CP into the mix?