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That said, I can't help but wonder if other issues are contributing to your nitrate issue. Lots of live rock is important as it gives bacterial surface. I have several hundred pounds of live rock in my system, a deep sand bed in one of my two refugiums. I also run filter socks which are changed out every 7-10 days. The key is not only removing dissolved solids but also enough surface for denitrifying bacteria. I am a big believer in the importance of that. With or without an absence of that, macro algae can also help in exporting nutrients. There is also flow in the display. If waste and detritus is collecting in your display, sand bed or even sump you will have nitrate issues. So while adding a more appropriately sized and capable skimmer will help, it may only be part of the solution.

I have 6 (7x16) socks and 2 mp60 vortechs for flow in the display. I only about 155lbs of rock. Which I agree with you is probably at least 1/2 of what I should have. Chaeto is on the way. If I wanted to add another skimmer would you suggest the dc-250 or a sm250? Thanks[/QUOTE]

I'd probably replace the one skimmer with the SM250. What about adding more live rock to your sump?
 
I would definitely take the pump apart and check everything first and give it a good vinegar bath if needed. If it sat that long, the bearing at the base of the impeller could be froze to the shaft in which case, it should come apart after a good soak in vinegar. Those blocks are generally pretty bullet proof when taken care of so a good vinegar bath and cleaning may just do the trick.

You could upgrade to the new RD3 50 but it would have to be the correct RD3 because there are different bases for different models. This would be the correct one.. They are also available from our dealers and if we don't have any left, we will have more arriving in a week.

As for the original motor block should you decide to go that route, they should be in stock in Ft. Myers or can be special order from one of the dealers.

Thanks for the advice! I took it apart and washed everything and it cranked up when plugged back in.

I'm intrigued about just getting the RD3 50 as an upgrade to my SM200. I just need the pump for the upgrade? No changes to the skimmer body? I should purchase this through a dealer like the kind one that is hosting this thread? :)

Also, I have a Dreambox. Any way that I can get another panel and titanium screws to mount the RD3 controller like this:

http://royalexclusiv.net/Dreamboxes.../Dreambox-Controller-50Watt-Holder::1113.html

I couldn't find any US dealers or the RE USA website with these items.

Thanks!
 
Thanks for the advice! I took it apart and washed everything and it cranked up when plugged back in.

I'm intrigued about just getting the RD3 50 as an upgrade to my SM200. I just need the pump for the upgrade? No changes to the skimmer body? I should purchase this through a dealer like the kind one that is hosting this thread? :)

Also, I have a Dreambox. Any way that I can get another panel and titanium screws to mount the RD3 controller like this:

http://royalexclusiv.net/Dreamboxes.../Dreambox-Controller-50Watt-Holder::1113.html

I couldn't find any US dealers or the RE USA website with these items.

Thanks!

Do you know which model SM200 you have? There were a couple variations over the years. That pump I linked to however should work but will have to be special ordered from a dealer like Premium unless in the off chance they have one in stock. I am not aware of any dealers with these pumps in stock but I don't track inventory like that so I could be mistaken.

As for the lids, those are custom made and would need to be special ordered directly from Germany. We would need to know which model dream box you have and I would put you in touch with Torsten. Feel free to PM me your email address and dream box model number. Also, if you know which version SM200 you have or have a couple pictures of the skimmer with the pump attached and out of the sump that would help. The controller mount and screws are also special order from Germany. I will tackle all this in a single email to Germany if you want to send me a PM with your email.
 
I have a 150gl display with 145gl sump and I am looking for an internal skimmer. the space in the sump is 25l x25w x 26h. I am hoping to keep mostly SPS. what skimmer would you think is best?
thank you in advanced.
 
I have a 150gl display with 145gl sump and I am looking for an internal skimmer. the space in the sump is 25l x25w x 26h. I am hoping to keep mostly SPS. what skimmer would you think is best?
thank you in advanced.

I'd suggest a double cone 180 with the RD3 pump. It will handle anything you throw at it in that side display and fit your sump well. :beer:
 
Slief hope you can help me out here. As previuos written i placed an order on a SM 250 RD3 over 1 month ago. The skimmer has still not arrived and i payed 110 usd in shipping. My LFS that i ordered through isnt much of a help. can you help me contact some of the guys in germany to locate the package? This wasnt the kind of service i expectet from this brand...
 
Slief hope you can help me out here. As previuos written i placed an order on a SM 250 RD3 over 1 month ago. The skimmer has still not arrived and i payed 110 usd in shipping. My LFS that i ordered through isnt much of a help. can you help me contact some of the guys in germany to locate the package? This wasnt the kind of service i expectet from this brand...

The SM250's were on back order and out of stock in the US. They are included in a shipment that is arriving first of next week and will be shipping as soon as they arrive. I am surprised the LFS hasn't told you that. I'm not even aware of any inquiries to Royal Exclusiv US as to the status of your order but had somebody from the LFS followed up with us, they should have been notified that they are coming in with the next shipment.
 
The SM250's were on back order and out of stock in the US. They are included in a shipment that is arriving first of next week and will be shipping as soon as they arrive. I am surprised the LFS hasn't told you that. I'm not even aware of any inquiries to Royal Exclusiv US as to the status of your order but had somebody from the LFS followed up with us, they should have been notified that they are coming in with the next shipment.

im located in Norway, And the skimmer was going to be sent in a solo shipment from germany
 
im located in Norway, And the skimmer was going to be sent in a solo shipment from germany
Oh.. That is a different story then.. I am with RE USA and not Germany. I would suggest contacting Germany directly. I will PM you Torstens email address but this should really be answered by your dealer and the fact that your dealer isn't responding is concerning.
 
Scott, you are a great RE resource. I was wondering if there is a post in this thread or someplace where a explanation is available that explains the difference between a Supermarin model, double cone model, internal model etc and in what situations each model is most appropriate?

Thanks in advance!
 
Question:

Will a BK 180 mini G3 be a good choice for a mixed reef of about 180-200g? Mostly LPS and softies, little SPS, medium bioload for fish.

I'm looking at the mini because of a very restrictive sump/stand area, and any skimmer with a pump outside the body will not fit. Currently using a Bubble Magus Curve 9, while it pulls decent skimmate, I am looking for an upgrade.
 
Scott, you are a great RE resource. I was wondering if there is a post in this thread or someplace where a explanation is available that explains the difference between a Supermarin model, double cone model, internal model etc and in what situations each model is most appropriate?

Thanks in advance!

No place in general but let me explain as best as I can.
Supermarin is one of the most popular Bubble King high end skimmers here in the US. It's designed to be a very efficient skimmer and is well suited for wet skimming but will dry skim as well. It's made of heavy acrylic and the skimmer body where it transitions from the large diameter of the body to the cone are below the neck is bonded. As I said, it's a very heavy skimmer made out of very thick material that is hand assembled.

The Double Cones are a bit lighter weight with thinner material and the entire body is extruded as opposed to glued like the Supermarin. Since the material is thinner and the build process is relatively less labor intensive, the cost of this skimmer is less. It's designed to meet the needs of more budget concious buyers who want a great skimmer at a lower cost point and don't need or can't afford the beefier SM or Deluxe model. Think Toyota vs Lexus or Chevy vs Cadillac. Both great cars from the same manufacturer but when you shut the door of a Lexus or Cadi, you know it's constructed different just from the thud and weight of the door. Both however will get you from point A to point B efficiently and comfortably.

The Deluxe line wasn't really imported in the US in any kind of volume so it's kind of unknown the the US consumers. I think it's under marketed and happens to be a terrific skimmer. Like the Supermarin, it shares a very heavy thick material and is constructed similarly with glued seams in the body as opposed to a fully extruded body like the Double Cone. Like the SM, the Deluxe is a no expense spared skimmer. In Europe, the Deluxe;s are the BK skimmer of choice but because of the fact that they aren't marketed or readily available out here, they aren't as popular. We now have the new Deluxe 300's in stock in Ft. Myers so I hope they gain some exposure because it's arguably one of the best skimmers ever made in it's size. They are better suited for dry skimming than the Supermarins but will wet skim great too. As such, if having to choose between the two, I'd say it's a tough choice. I think the Supermarins are a bit easier to fine tune for wet skimming and most of us like to see lots of skimmate in the collection cup so for many the SM will be the skimmer of choice. Both are great designs though and really tough to beat.

The External models are for people who don't have space in their sumps or don't want their skimmers perfomance to be predicated on their sump levels. Beyond that, the external models share nearly identical body designs and build quality as their internal Supermarin and Deluxe counterparts and perfom equally as well.

While you didn't mention it, I figured I would mention the Mini's. Those are designed for people with very limited sump space and thus the pump is built into the body. Not ideal in my opinion if you have the space in the sump for the Double Cones, Supermarin or Deluxe in my opinion for no other reason than having a pump inside the skimmer is an inconvenience when it comes time to service the pump. Unfortunately, for some sumps, the need for a very compact footprint skimmer is a prerequisite and the Mini line satisfies that need while providing a no compromise design given the space constraints.

Remember, at the heart of every great skimmer is a great pump and beyond just the skimmer body design, the Bubble Kings are coveted for their pumps and the new Red Dragon 3's really improve the performance of the entire line and raise the bar to a new level. As such, whether you choose a Double Cone, Supermarin, Deluxe or Mini, they are all terrific skimmers. You just need to decide if you prefer wet or dry skimming or if you want a skimmer body that is built like a tank (Supermarin or Deluxe) and have the budget for it or if you want a great skimmer at a lower cost (double cone) that makes minor compromises to bring BK performance at a lower price point. Or if you don't have space in your sump but still demand the BK performance, then there is the Mini line.

I hope that answers your questions.
 
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Question:

Will a BK 180 mini G3 be a good choice for a mixed reef of about 180-200g? Mostly LPS and softies, little SPS, medium bioload for fish.

I'm looking at the mini because of a very restrictive sump/stand area, and any skimmer with a pump outside the body will not fit. Currently using a Bubble Magus Curve 9, while it pulls decent skimmate, I am looking for an upgrade.

For a medium load absolutely. It would be a very consistent skimmer on that sized display with your proposed load. If space is an issue, that would be my suggestion. If you planned on a really heavy load, I might suggest the Mini 200 but given your target load, I think the 200 would be oversized and not as consistent as the 180. The new Mini's with the RD3 pump are unline any space saving skimmer on the market. I think (actually I know) you will be VERY happy with the performance and efficiency.
 
For a medium load absolutely. It would be a very consistent skimmer on that sized display with your proposed load. If space is an issue, that would be my suggestion. If you planned on a really heavy load, I might suggest the Mini 200 but given your target load, I think the 200 would be oversized and not as consistent as the 180. The new Mini's with the RD3 pump are unline any space saving skimmer on the market. I think (actually I know) you will be VERY happy with the performance and efficiency.

Thank you for the opinion. I will need to measure the sump first to see if it fits, since getting the Curve 9 in there was a circus show already :jester:

One thing that I look forward to getting the BK is the quietness that I have been reading from several users. I don't mind a bit of hum but if I had a choice of course it'd be silence > noise.
 
Thank you for the opinion. I will need to measure the sump first to see if it fits, since getting the Curve 9 in there was a circus show already :jester:

One thing that I look forward to getting the BK is the quietness that I have been reading from several users. I don't mind a bit of hum but if I had a choice of course it'd be silence > noise.

They are in fact silent. At least under my tank. They are also very efficient because you will never need to run it at full power. That skimmer will likely be set between 30 and 35 watts on the RD3 controller and the pumps have little to no heat transfer which is a bonus.
 
My SM 250 finally arrived and im so impressed with this skimmer. The weight of the tick acrylic is amazing. I read that the rd3 is going best at 36-38w is that correct on every setup? and the little metal screw on the side tube what does it actually do when you adjust it?
 
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