Bubble King Skimmer Club

[slief]

I have a 180 gal tank and 40 ish gal sump No fish yet but will be stocked with butterfly's , angels and a tang or 2 so medium to heavy stocked
So you think the Double cone 180 rated for a 150 gal would be an option??

I think it would probably work well for you. Based on what you are saying, you will have a reasonably light load although I am only considering a handful of butterfly fish since you didn't mention how many you plan.. The Bubble King skimmer are very efficient and the 200 could end up being on the large side based on the number of fish you are planning but it would still work fine for you.

That said, looking at those sumps, you can probably get that Double cone 200 in there if you wanted to. A quick brushing along one side or two sides of the base with a file should be all you need to drop it in there in a worse case scenario. The base of the skimmer is not made from acrylic so it could be shaved down easily in a matter of minutes with a file or some sand paper. We are only talking a millimeter or two so the amount is negligible. That is if the .1 of an inch is a enough to prevent it from going in in the first place.

You can even find a local acrylic shop to shave the bottom edge down a fraction of an inch if you are afraid of doing it yourself. Normally I wouldn't condone doing any of this but you are so close that it wouldn't even be noticeable and because the modification would be on the outside edge of the skimmer base, the mod would only be a cosmetic one. It certainly wouldn't impact the skimmers operation.

 

[MrsBugmaster]

Well the 180 will be stocked medium to heavy bio load with around 12 medium to large fish and some smaller ones too. What would be the best skimmer for this set up with the sump having a skimmer space of 12.5 x 17.5?

Also must be very quiet running too!

 

[Klaus Jansen]

A Double-Cone 180 + RD3-Speedy-skimmer Pump and 50 Watt RD3-Returnpump.

The Customer make a measurement . +/- 45 db

You can read it here :http://www.meerwasserforum.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=58439&pageNo=2

The Speedy Pumps are very popular here in the EU. Yet the Moment, we have a big shipment on the way over the big pond, to our warehouse and dealers in USA.
If you want a none-chinese Quality-pump from Germany, please ask your dealer or Premium-Aquatics. He want give the best price and customersupport.

best regards ... Klaus

 

[MrsBugmaster]

A Double-Cone 180 + RD3-Speedy-skimmer Pump and 50 Watt RD3-Returnpump.

The Customer make a measurement . +/- 45 db

You can read it here :http://www.meerwasserforum.com/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=58439&pageNo=2

The Speedy Pumps are very popular here in the EU. Yet the Moment, we have a big shipment on the way over the big pond, to our warehouse and dealers in USA.
If you want a none-chinese Quality-pump from Germany, please ask your dealer or Premium-Aquatics. He want give the best price and customersupport.

best regards ... Klaus

Klaus, do you think the BK Double Cone 180 skimmer would be ok on a medium to heavy stocked 180 gal tank w/40 gal sump(keeping in mine the sump would not be full or hold 40 gal of water) even though it is rated for a 150 gal tank?

 

[Premiumaq]

Klaus - danke noch ein mal! Wir erwarten unsere neue Speedys!

People, it was systems like these - only scaled back to late 1990s technology - that I saw in Germany that got me into this hobby. The redundancy of vital elements, the built-in controls and safeties, the simple but elegant design intended to squeeze the maximum efficiency and performance out of every cubic centimeter of space... To me, this should be the real contest - let's see a new thread up on the main page for "Under-Tank of the Month!" With a system like this in place underneath, you can maintain just about any sort of marine ecosystem you want in the aquarium(s) attached to it.
If you consider that this sort of system is what the Germans are engineering their equipment to complement, you'll understand much about their designs and the quality of their craftsmanship!

 

[Klaus Jansen]

Hi saamath ..

1 gallon = 3,7 Liter so the tank have maybe 850-900 Liter.... It´s possible, if he dont have to much fishs inside....

Hope it helps ...

best regards ... Klaus

Ps.... very good idea with the *Undertank of the month* ... :beer:

 

[bayoupr]

With all the fine German Engineering involved with these new DC Pumps, you would think they could add a Quick Disconnect plug between the controller and pump, ie; aviation type (less chance of dropping something like the control box). This would make pump maintenance a whole lot easier. As of now you have to take the pump, all the wiring and control unit (not small like the chinese units) out to clean the pump. This fix should not be too complicated to figure out. This is the main reason I sold my 200 double cone.

 

[Premiumaq]

I do like the idea of a quick disconnect in-line, but I also wonder about the resistances involved, and the potential for introduction of creep... Maybe the solution to the salt creep would be a twist-lock hollow plastic guard surrounding an aviation-style disconnect, nearer to the controller than the pump? I don't know enough about resistance to know how an in-line disconnect would affect overall power consumption... would it negate some of the benefit of the controller?

 

[M007]

A quick disconnect will have zero effect but will add to costs for a good, waterproof unit. I'm guessing that there is no quick plug for safety reasons. Likely someone will not unplug their main and drop the live plug into the sump, scary! With the AC Red Dragon you have to unplug to pull the pump.

 

[bayoupr]

Likely someone will not unplug their main and drop the live plug into the sump, scary

Doesn't have to be the inline type. Could be the receptacle type mounted under the control box in place of the pump cable. Then put the male end on the pump cable and simply unscrew the locking ring and unplug. Military and Aviation uses this type for all weather and rugged duty. I like the Red Dragon AC skimmer pumps, unplug, pull the pump and go clean it. Nothing else to drag with it.

 

[M007]

+1, my Supermarin runs with the AC RD

 

[slief]

Doesn't have to be the inline type. Could be the receptacle type mounted under the control box in place of the pump cable. Then put the male end on the pump cable and simply unscrew the locking ring and unplug. Military and Aviation uses this type for all weather and rugged duty. I like the Red Dragon AC skimmer pumps, unplug, pull the pump and go clean it. Nothing else to drag with it.

I like the idea for having of having a removable plug as well but my primary concern was so I could flush mount the controller in the wall. For cleaning, a little container of vinegar brought over the the sump will suffice for me. I've got my Tunze 6105's and 6205's mounted to bulk heads inside my tank with the wires run through the plumbing and out the back of the tank. I actually de-soldered the little control boxes off the end of the Tunze cables so I could run the wires and re-soldered them once the wires were run. When I clean those, I pull a bit of the cable through the line and clean the pumps on the top of the tank so cleaning the RD3 on the floor next to my sump is a no brainer for me.

In case you are wondering, this is what I am talking about with the Tunzes. It's something I covered in depth in my build thread.

 

[M007]

I like the idea for having of having a removable plug as well but my primary concern was so I could flush mount the controller in the wall. For cleaning, a little container of vinegar brought over the the sump will suffice for me. I've got my Tunze 6105's and 6205's mounted to bulk heads inside my tank with the wires run through the plumbing and out the back of the tank. I actually de-soldered the little control boxes off the end of the Tunze cables so I could run the wires and re-soldered them once the wires were run. When I clean those, I pull a bit of the cable through the line and clean the pumps on the top of the tank so cleaning the RD3 on the floor next to my sump is a no brainer for me. In case you are wondering, this is what I am talking about with the Tunzes. It's something I covered in depth in my build thread.

Nice

 

[reefid]

for 150gallon gross volume sps dominated tank, will a bubbleking mini 180 enough?
I like keep many fishes

 

[CCCJr]

Bubble King DC 150 or 180?

Bubble King DC 150 or 180?

Putting together a new system, 120 gallon display tank and Elite M2 sump (max 29.5 gallons). I am wanting to purchase a Bubble King DC skimmer and wanted to know whether the 150 or 180 would be most adequate. I anticipate a mixed tank with med to high bioload. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Is Jeremy out there? Thank you.

 

[SchnitzelReef]

Agreed - even in a lightly stocked system, you're likely passing the reliable skimming capacity at 650g+.

Was wondering if it's possible to spin my pump on my double cone 250? I don't know if this effects the performance at all, but I would prefer the pumps intake to be farther away from the output of the skimmer


Not sure if u can see what I'm talking about. Either you or klaus had recommended to spin the output towards the pump to prevent water from spraying out of the air hose inlet. This solved my problem with the water spraying issue, but now my pump and skimmer output are right next to each other. Seems like it would be nicer if I could spin the pump 180* so it was sucking in water from the opposite side.

Let me know if u have any ideas. Thanks

 

[Premiumaq]

That must have been Jeremy or Klaus. I'm certainly not familiar enough with the minute variations in performance of these skimmers to make suggestions about water levels or pump placements.

 

[SchnitzelReef]

Looks great to me! Keep letting it break in more and more. Looks awesome!

Was wondering if it's possible to spin my pump on my double cone 250? I don't know if this effects the performance at all, but I would prefer the pumps intake to be farther away from the output of the skimmer
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Not sure if u can see what I'm talking about. Either you or klaus had recommended to spin the output towards the pump to prevent water from spraying out of the air hose inlet. This solved my problem with the water spraying issue, but now my pump and skimmer output are right next to each other. Seems like it would be nicer if I could spin the pump 180* so it was sucking in water from the opposite side.

Let me know if u have any ideas. Thanks

Any suggestions??

 

[Klaus Jansen]

Hi Schnitzelreef...

please turn the white T-outlet complete to the right side. The T-Pice is not glued, you can it turning...
And i think, you can put the waterlevel in your sump a little bit higher, maybe 1 " ? Best way, the siliconhose, where going in the Red Tube, is completly underwater.....

best regards.... Klaus

 

[SchnitzelReef]

Bubble King Skimmer Club

Hi Schnitzelreef...

please turn the white T-outlet complete to the right side. The T-Pice is not glued, you can it turning...
And i think, you can put the waterlevel in your sump a little bit higher, maybe 1 " ? Best way, the siliconhose, where going in the Red Tube, is completly underwater.....

best regards.... Klaus

I originally had the T-outlet facing the opposite direction, but water was spraying from the air house inlet. U recommended to turn it towards the pump so that the air hose could bend, and water would stop spraying out. That fixed my problem.

Also I have had 2 acrylic stands made for this skimmer, and this water level works very well. I don't think I could raise the water level anymore, the wedge pipe is 90-95% closed already.

I'm running the pump at 35-36w