Build Thread: 232 Gallon Peninsula Tank

Well, the tank and sump are on order for delivery on 11-17. I have three weekends to complete the stand frame. That should be easy enough. I tweaked the stand design a bit since I last showed the sketchup shot. Photos coming.

I also hooked up the RODI filter last night, and I will glue the plumbing this morning for the storage tanks.
 
You know, I've been wondering whether people prefer to see thumbnail photos in posts (that they can click to see in more detail) or whether people would rather the full sized photo be imbedded into the message. I'm going to switch it up in my next post. Let me know what you folks think.

So, here is the new stand design. The end is now completely open. I decided that 2x8s out beyond the tank were not doing anything to support the tank, and were just going to be in the way when trying to work in the sump.
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From underneath, here is a shot of all the cross bracing, which has been dadoed into the side rails.
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Here is a shot of the tank and sump on/in the stand.
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And just in case anyone wants to pay me royalties ( :lolspin: ) for the stand, here is an exploded view of the stand showing how it is constructed.
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Personally, I prefer full images on a thread. Many of the network image services can be a bit slow from time to time, but none of them is as slow as the RC servers offering up full size images from thumbnails.

Dave.M
 
Ok guys and gals,

All my equipment is now on order or already here. Here is an updated equipment list with links to the pages from whom I bought the equipment. Perhaps the links will be helpful for those in the future who may be interested in sourcing some of the same equipment I chose.

Display Tank: GlassCages 240 gallon 6' long
Sump Tank: GlassCages 65 gallon tank
Skimmer: Bubble King Supermarin 200 (The Vertex Alpha 250 has not been for sale by any online retailers I feel comfortable with, and so I elected to go with an upgrade.)
Heaters: http://www.bulkreefsupply.com/ecotech-marine-radion-xr30w-led-light-fixture.html2 of ViaAqua 200W titanium heaters. I live in Florida and don't believe I will need a lot of heat wattage.
Rock: 300 lbs of BRS ReefSaver Rock
Sand: CarbiSea argonite sand 1-2mm grains, 80lbs (enough for 1" layer in my tank)
Salt Mix: 1 bucket of Instant Ocean Reef Crystals from my local fish store
Lights: 3 of Ecotech Radions
Sump pump: Reef Octopus Waterblaster HY5000
Powerheads: 2 of Ecotech M60
Media Reactors: 2 of BRS Jumbo reactors (one for carbon and one for GFO)
Carbon: BRS Bulk Premium ROX
GFO: BRS High Capacity GFO
RODI Filter: BRS 5 Stage Plus System (which includes flush kit, dual inline TDS meter, and pressure gage)
Aquarium controller: Neptune APEX controller
Filter Socks: 8 of BRS 7" felt filter sock with plastic ring
Filter Sock Mount: BRS mount for 7" socks
Autotop off: Tunze Osmolator Universal 3155
 
Well, I've not done a very good job keeping this thread up to date. Here are some "recent" developments...

Mixing station completed
- RODI hooked up, with electrical box with switches for heater and mixing pump. (Note how orange my sediment filter is after making only 120 gallons of RODI water!)


Clear hoses hooked up showing water level inside the barrels. The water level indicator on the saltwater tub is marked with 5 gallon increments for helping me figure out how much salt to add. The hoses reach into the house.


Hose reaching into the house and into a tub mounted on a cart.



Curing of base rock while I waited for delivery of my tank on 11/17.



One chunk of squid as my biological seed.



The stand frame.

A shot from the window looking at the room.


A shot from the other side.


A shot of the open side where the cabinet will extend out from the wall.


The stand is crazy rigid, as I suppose it needs to be. I'm quite proud of the end result. I aimed for a stand that is 32" tall, precisely square, and exactly 1/8" longer and wider than the actual tank. I hit those marks solidly.

As I look at it, I'm spanning a 6' distance with 2x8s, and I'm really pleased I can have that much access to the sump area without vertical supports in my way.
 
tank installation.

I had intended to use my dad's Ford Ranger to collect the tank and sump from Glasscages' delivery truck. The real bummer was that the bed was about 3 inches too narrow to house both tanks side by side.

This led me to conclude that I needed a trailer instead. I went ahead and made a Uhaul reservation for a trailer only to discover that my dad's truck did not have wiring ready to hook up the break lights. So I dumped that idea.

Next plan was to rent a cargo van, which turned out to have pleanty of space, but cost an arm and a leg. They say "$19.99 in town moves," but that is only half the story, and not even a quarter of the cost after paying for milage. $.59 per mile. YUCK.

So my Dad and I drove 40 miles away to where the Glasscages' truck was awaiting, and with just two men they used suction handles and a lift gate to lower the 240 gallon tank to be level with the bed of the van and then scooted it in. The 65 gallon sump tank was a 1 man job and was simply carried into the van. I checked the tanks all over for any signs of damage or poor workmanship. I could not find any. The silicon joints were a little sloppy in some places, but mostly this was in areas that won't be easily visible.

We drove it home, and my neighborhood ganged up on the installation with me. While the tank was in the van, we lifted up each end and slipped two furniture dollies underneath it and strapped them to the tank so that we could roll it into the house. That turned out to be a mistake. Once we lifted the tank out of the van, the dolly's started sliding off and became useless. We could not set the tank down without risking damage to the tank, so we carried it into the house and while we sat there holding the tank, we had to unstrap the dollies so we could set it on the stand. We should have just carried it in. With that many people, it was not really too much of a problem.

I cut the styrofoam oversized so we would not have to place the tank down perfectly. Once the tank was on the stand, we nudged it around until it was properly aligned and then trimmed off the foam. In all it took about 30 minutes. Almost no one stayed for the beer we bought and the chili I made. :-P Oh well. More for me!

Here are some shots.
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And of course... here is the ever-obligatory shot of the kid inside the tank.
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Its definitely coming along. Here are some recent updates.

I siliconed in the glass overflow box in my display. The joints in the overflow box are a little sloppier than I would like, but respectable for my first attempt ever. I don't know if it will hold water yet. I will be trying it out later today when I glue up the plumbing.


I also put the baffles into the sump. I made some changes to my original sketchup drawing.



Rather than install a bubble trap near the return, I elected to just use a single baffle. I will add an additional baffle if microbubbles become a problem for my system. If needed, it will be an under-over two-baffle design.



I'm a little worried that, in trying to maximize the water in my sump, I did not leave enough room for the water that will drain into the sump when the pump is turned off. I calculated the theoretical drainage, and made room for double that amount. Nonetheless, I won't know for sure until I fill the tank and try it.

I also built the frame for the cabinet area against the wall. Its is a simple box supported by the rigidity of the tank stand, and it has some peg board for mounting hooks and plastic bins for storage.



I have also dry fit the Bean Animal plumbing for the drain, although I made a few changes to BeanAnimal's design as follows:


  • I used 1" plumbing throughout. I did not understand the logic of using a 1" bulkhead and then using adaptors to make everything else 1.5". I figured the flow rate was going to be limited by the bottleneck at the bulkhead anyway, so why should I adapt to bigger fixtures. I later discovered why BeanAnimal adapted to 1.5". The smallest diameter is not the bulkhead. It is the size of the openings inside the valves. So, I have restricted my flow because I used 1" valves instead of 1.5". Shame on me. I hope its good enough. If not, I'll be redoing some of my plumbing! Time will tell.
  • I used a gate valve on the main siphon drain. This will allow me to more easily tune the flow rate through the siphon. The other two values are true union ball valves as he suggests.
  • I could not find the parts and tools I needed to cap the backup siphon air hose in the way he suggests. He uses a simple screw on cap with a drilled and tapped hole to accept a John Guest quick connect fitting. My local box stores did not carry taps, and so I had no easy way to make an airtight connection with the fitting. Instead, I capped the back-up siphon tube with a coupling and a 1-to-1/2" bushing. I then threaded in a plastic barb elbow to accept a 1/4" ID plastic hose. The construction is different, but the design intent is maintained. I believe this approach is cheaper and easier than buying a tap and tapping a hole. The only downside is that I no longer have a 1" access to the top of the drain by screwing off Bean Animal's cap. Instead I have a 1/2" opening if I unscrew the barb fitting.
  • Rather than hard plumbing the drains into the water, I chose to use clear flex tubing. There are two reasons for this. The first and primary reason is that it allows me to easily move the hoses out from the filter sock so I can change it. The secondary reason is that it allows me to see the waterflow through the pipes and gives me a chance to see any blockages that may develop there.
    There were three problems with using the flex tubing. First, the large diameter tubing was expensive. 10' cost me almost $40. Second, the tubing was curled and was difficult to straighten (more on this in a second). Last, I could not find a barb fitting for it. Instead, I found that a 1" slip-MPT coupling threaded nice and tight into the ID of the tubing. It's not ideal, and I would not use this for a situation in which the water is under pressure, but for a drain it should work great. We'll see if I'm right.

To straighten the flex hose, I grabbed a large cooler boiled as much water as I had pots for, and poured most of the water into the cooler. I positioned each length of tube into a U shape and placed it into the cooler, being careful to match the height of the left and right sides of each tube. I then filled each tube with the boiling water I had reserved. After about 5-10 minutes, I was able to pull the tubes out, place them straight on the floor and let them cool. The results were not absolutely perfect, but it will definitely suffice.
 
from 12/1:
Also, all the plumbing is done, return and drain systems. All the gear is hooked up, including the return pump, my two BRS Jumbo reactors, and my filter sock. I cannot leak test the plumbing yet because I cannot get the tank wet until December 4. But I went ahead and filled my overflow box with water to see if my silicone joints were sound. Its been an hour and so far there is not a sign of water anywhere but inside the box. I'll let it sit overnight and check it in the morning.

I also finished setting up the quarantine tank. Its a 18x18x18 cube with a 200 GPH HOB filter and a 75W heater. There are two large PVC fixtures in there, and it is off cycling away. I should be about 3 weeks away from bringing home my first inhabitants and putting them into "the Cube."

I also checked my rock cycling in the garage. I'm very happy to report that ammonia and nitrite are now zero, and nitrate is still in that "fuzzy API" range of not zero, but not a lot. I also decided to spend a reagent package for my Hanna phosphate checker, and to my surprise, phosphates also read zero. I thought I would see some since I have that decaying chunk of squid in there and since I read so many horror stories about BRS Reefsaver Rock being loaded with phosphates. So far that does not seem to be the case for me.
 
And from tonight, the tank has been running for a week with tap water in it. The system works great. I will try to upload some videos to Youtube to demo it.
 
Finally... the first video. Here is a tour of the sump and the return system.

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I'm converting a second video. It maybe tomorrow before it gets posted at this rate.
 
And now the second video, in which I demonstrate the turn off and start up of my BeanAnimal overflow.

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Great work! I'm just setting up a 50 gal with the BeanAnimal overflow and my test runs sound like yours, but it's nice to see an example with clear tubing to see exactly what is actually happening :-D
 
Well Guys,

It was a long holiday season. Tank time was severely limited, what with all the holiday shopping, gift building (one gift had to be built twice for reasons that I would rather not confess), gift giving, party attending, decoration put-a-waying... you get the picture.

Anyway, my tank had little to nothing done to it for about 4 weeks since I last posted an update. That is... until the new year. Since then, I drained the tank of the leak-test/return-system-test-water, built up an aquascape, and filled the tank with salt water (one painful bucket at a time.) I hooked up the carbon and GFO media filters, let the tank clear up, and started up the skimmer. Here are some current highlights.

1) I used BRS's high capacity GFO, and rinsed the GFO with about 2 gallons of water until it ran clear. However, it still pumped fine dust into the system and through filters socks for quite some time. There is now a dusting of GFO on the surface water of the display and on the surface of the sump that seems difficult to remove. I believe the carbon will get the job done given enough patience. We'll see.

2) My crazy expensive skimmer is not as quiet as I would like, but I will get used to it. Tuning it is a difficult thing given three things. First, there is not really a bioload yet, just liquid remnants of the cycling seed I put in with the rocks in November and December. Two, I don't really know how to use this thing, and lastly the instructions were clearly written by a German without good English skills. They are terrible.

3) I removed several layers of skin on my fingertips installing this rock. I hope it grows back some day. As you can see in the video, I went with a two sided design with caves and a canyon between. I'm still debating whether to bridge the left and right sides with a span of rocks. I do still have about 50-60lb's left over.

4) While my display tank is not showing any signs of nitrites or ammonia, my quarantine tank is still not ready to accept any inhabitants, despite being up and running for 4 weeks now. /sigh. Patience is a virtue. This poor tank is going to sit empty for a while!

Here's a quick look at the positioning of the rocks, and enjoy my daughter's favorite Christmas present, Madagascar3, playing in the background.

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