Building My 375gal Glass Reef

there is a big controversy on the pellets. most claim that it is a temp solution... Vs like a Sulfur De-Nitrate reactor which keeps on keeping on. (this is for nitrates) but do the pellets remove other things? i have no experience with them, but my sulfur reactor does work!
just another option...

My personal opinion is that sulfur reactors work fine - but - they need to be watched carefully. Let them go partially stagnant for a couple of hours and your in for big trouble. Now, that's probably not a problem for most diligent people who keep a sharp watch out for all parts of their systems. Me, I'm likely to forget to check on a part here or a part there every one in a while. So I stick with things that tend to be fail safe.

Following the many threads that currently exist on RC (and elsewhere) about the bio-pellets, you definitely get the idea that there a things we don't yet know about what kind of environment tends to make the pellets most efficient. Some users feel that they are the bees knees (I'm allowed to say that, being old as dirt). Others don't even seem to be able to get them to work. I think it's too early to tell where the whole thing is going. I will say, I definitely don't think the whole thing is a fantasy. There is way too much anecdotal evidence pointing in the direction of success.

Having said all that, mine are working. You can see that the beads in my reactor are getting smaller. Something is eating them away...
 
My personal opinion is that sulfur reactors work fine - but - they need to be watched carefully. Let them go partially stagnant for a couple of hours and your in for big trouble. Now, that's probably not a problem for most diligent people who keep a sharp watch out for all parts of their systems. Me, I'm likely to forget to check on a part here or a part there every one in a while. So I stick with things that tend to be fail safe.

Following the many threads that currently exist on RC (and elsewhere) about the bio-pellets, you definitely get the idea that there a things we don't yet know about what kind of environment tends to make the pellets most efficient. Some users feel that they are the bees knees (I'm allowed to say that, being old as dirt). Others don't even seem to be able to get them to work. I think it's too early to tell where the whole thing is going. I will say, I definitely don't think the whole thing is a fantasy. There is way too much anecdotal evidence pointing in the direction of success.

Having said all that, mine are working. You can see that the beads in my reactor are getting smaller. Something is eating them away...

I've been using the N/P Pellets now for 5 months and the key is to dose Zeo Bak of some sort of Probiotic Bacteria to your system. Once the bacteria enters the reactor chamber with the beads you should have success. You also need to make sure you are using a reactor that keeps the beads in a slow constant motion and that you are skimming away the waste from the pellets....

I keep bringing frags to my LFS and they are amazed wit the colors from my sps. Once my frags hit the water that are sold in matter of minutes. great skimmer and properly set up Bio pellets is the Bee's Knees for sure!
 
well, my Sulfur reactor has been set and forget.. (honestly, i havent touched it since i put it under my stand......) and its been doing me good.
BUT! once it does start giving me trouble and i need to continuously mess with it, it will be hocked.... (it only cost me about 10$ in PVC to build, and i had a old MJ lying around so its not like im out anything...)
i only brought up the topic because i wasnt sure if the Bio Pellets are used for more then just Nitrates. if they consume other say phosphates or another thing then Heck yea its a sweet investment.. (i have been keeping my eye on these, but havent been keeping up with the threads.)

Good luck, and keep us updated on the Algae problems!!!
 
well, my Sulfur reactor has been set and forget.. (honestly, i havent touched it since i put it under my stand......) and its been doing me good.
BUT! once it does start giving me trouble and i need to continuously mess with it, it will be hocked.... (it only cost me about 10$ in PVC to build, and i had a old MJ lying around so its not like im out anything...)
i only brought up the topic because i wasnt sure if the Bio Pellets are used for more then just Nitrates. if they consume other say phosphates or another thing then Heck yea its a sweet investment.. (i have been keeping my eye on these, but havent been keeping up with the threads.)

Good luck, and keep us updated on the Algae problems!!!

Honestly it all depends on the Bacteria strain that is living on the Beads. Remember the beads only feed the Bacteria as a carbon source. It's the bacteria that does all of the work. No bacteria... and you might as well have marbles in your reactor! Zeo Bak is know for Bacteria strains that will consume both Nitrates and Phosphates. I have my reactor plumed in from my return pump ( Tee'd off) and it works remarkably well. I use the Vertex reactor.

Also... I dose Zeo Bak 2 time a week and I have to add amino acids because my nutrient levels are so low. Without the amino's the LPS struggles.
 
Hi Tom,

first of all congratulations on your system. I read bits and pieces of your build thread and the level of details you cared for is simply amazing.

Then I came across your homepage and I have to congratulate again for the incredible amount of useful information you posted.

I also was impressed by your tank status page and the way you used the apex graphs on the page and the ability to graph more than 7 days.

I have a question for you. I immagine you wrote the backend software to interface to the apex and store the results on a database. Which language did you use? And also I don't know if it is asking too much but would you be open on sharing the programming behind? I really would like to run a database on my pc and continuously retrieve and store data from my apex in order to gain the ability to log and graph more than 7 days of data. What I would always have loved to do is to have a page similar to your status page served by my own pc and use that instead if the apex web interface to check on my tank. I guess I could program it from scratch but you already did all of the work for your website and if you could share you would make me happy and happily lazy. I may work on the code to control the outlets though and I would not mind sharing that at all.

Thanks

Claudio
 
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hello your instalation is really amazing congratulations!

I can ask you for info on the 2 overflow pipe?

where to find them and how is it working?

sorry I translated with google! ;-)
 
search BeanAnimal or Herbie overflow here on RC..
there are a few threads in the DIY forums. they explain and show details.
 
Well, no doubt about it, I've become a chronic no-show. :o I've been spending so much time with developing my site that I haven't been visiting the boards as much as I'd like.


Luckylouse: glad the pellets are working so well for you! I would love to see some pics.


dahenley: David, I agree with you on the sulfur reactor thing. They can definitely be an advantage to a tank but, when they go off kilter, thing can go downhill fast. As far as dosing any carbon other than than pellets, none, at this time.


jjstecchino: about my status page. Actually, like you, I didn't want to re-invent the wheel, so I purchased some backend source code (written mostly in PHP) and customized it so that "the look" perfectly matches my site. PM me if you'd like contact info. If you're just interested in getting status info directly from the Apex and dumping it into a DB on your PC, you can do that using Telnet. I developed a control and status display app when I had my AC-III Pro. It was based on Telnet and written in VB:


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Phoenix912: just in case you were interested in the Hofer Gurgle Buster, take a look here: GURGLE BUSTER
 
Hey Tom ,

first off hands down one of the best thought out setups I've seen . I was wondering why you switched over to the Apex controller from your AQ Pro ? I have had an AQ3 for a few years now and have been debating doing this as well. Are you happy with your choice , and were there any main reasons why you switched ? Been debating going with the Profilux , but with being able to use items I have from my old setup , I'm swaying toward the Apex

-TIA
 
Good stuff Tom. I'm glad reef life is getting better. I don't know if you've stopped by the thread lately, but I finally overhauled the tank to change things up.

Are you running a kalk reactor? I can't remember.
 
... I was wondering why you switched over to the Apex controller from your AQ Pro ? I have had an AQ3 for a few years now and have been debating doing this as well. Are you happy with your choice , and were there any main reasons why you switched ? ...

To be honest my reasons for switching weren't particularly overwhelming. I wanted the promised, enhanced graphing functionality, the 0-10V control possibilities, and the switch cost me less than $20 as I got a really excellent price on the Apex through a group buy at my favorite LFS. All in all, I'm very happy I made the switch. I'd do it again, any time.



Good stuff Tom. I'm glad reef life is getting better. I don't know if you've stopped by the thread lately, but I finally overhauled the tank to change things up.

Are you running a kalk reactor? I can't remember.

Thanks, Mark. Yeah, those darn Dinos finally seem to be giving up the ghost - hopefully that trend will continue. My corals (those that made it through the ordeal) are perking up considerably. All the corals I had in the tank were, hardy "break-in" corals. If all goes well with the Dinos, it'll be great to be able to include some nice "upper class" specimens. :)

No, I don't run a kalk reactor. I did, for a while, in a futile attempt at using high pH to rid the tank of the dinoflagellates - but it was just too much effort for little gain. When it was over I had a winter landscape in the tank, with calcium loaded pumps. I have been considering dosing a minimal amount of kalk in conjunction with the ATO.
 
I'm curious on how you used your reactor then, if it wasn't used in conjunction with your top off?
Thanks

Evening, David. I was running the kalkreaktor fully saturated as full replacement for all topoff water - at the same time I was dosing a kalk slurry at the rate of almost 2 heaping teaspoons full of calcium-hydroxide in 1 cup of water every 2-/2 hours! This just managed to keep my pH at 8.5 to 8.6. If I stopped dosing the slurry for more than 3 hours the pH would drop back down to 8.3. That meant to keep the pH up I would have to get up twice in the middle of the night. :hmm2: Well, my wife just wasn't goin' for it.


My point to Mark was that I'm considering running a diluted kalk solution as top-off. I like the way many corals often react with increased growth under those conditions.
 
ok. (explains a bunch)
i was getting ready to hook up a Kalk reactor to my ATO, and got scared all of a sudden... (i wasnt wanting my tank to look like the Swiss alps...)
 
Tom,
Glad everything ok and running smooth.

Just read your UV article at your website, really interesting, I was hoping to install a unit for my QT tank setup which will consist on maybe 2 to 3 tanks connected to each other so it can house more amounts of fish at the same time.

Do you think UV can attack Ick?

Thanks take care.

Also, do you keep dosing your tank Ca-Alk-Mg with the Doser Pump? I tend to go this way instead of buying a Calc Reactor.
 
Do you think UV can attack Ick?

I think that a correctly dimensioned and set up UV (as described in my article) can help at keeping Ick from spreading within a closed system - and I think that it can, to a lesser extent, keep reinfections from occurring.

Also, do you keep dosing your tank Ca-Alk-Mg with the Doser Pump? I tend to go this way instead of buying a Calc Reactor.

Yes, I am still using the "lite" version of the Balling Method. It's been keeping my parameters very stable.

BTW - thanks for the comment on my homepage. I replied with a question. Perhaps, if you have time, you could give it look. Thanks!
 
Thanks Tom for the clear explanation, I will study carefully your article before buying the correct UV sterilizer for my QT system.

BTW, left a comment on your website, I really like it as always. :)
 
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