Can fish tb in humans start out as a burning small rash?
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CStrickland
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Oh for gods sake
Are you thinking you have mycobacterium marinum?
You can lose an arm by that
Talk to your doctor like today
Show her this article http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/9/11/03-0192_article
A burning small rash could be literally anything
Maybe you have herpes
Are you thinking you have mycobacterium marinum?
You can lose an arm by that
Talk to your doctor like today
Show her this article http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/9/11/03-0192_article
A burning small rash could be literally anything
Maybe you have herpes
gone fishin
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:lolspin:
Xxero
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Yes. And as noted, it is more commonly called mycobacterium marinum.
Here's another informative article: http://www.reefkeeping.com/issues/2003-07/sp/feature/
micgloth18
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LMAO too funny. the personality in that response. That crap is true though but there are not alot of cases in the USA. I will say this though. It is the reason I don't eat fish. They had a problem up north with some sushi have the bacteria in it and people freakin ate it. It was along time ago but it was enough. No fish for me. Also people you eat puffer are not smart people.
HERE ARE SOME FACTS FOR YOU:
MYCOBACTERIUM : Mycobacterium marinum causes disease in many fish species from cold or warm, fresh or salted water, human infection follows contact with fishes or contaminated water. First described as "swimming-pool granuloma,"marinum skin infection is often acquired from aquarium maintenance and called "fish tank granuloma."The infection is commonly limited to a skin disease on the limbs but can spread to deeper structures, resulting in tenosynovitis, arthritis, and osteomyelitis. Disseminated infections are exceptional. The incidence of M marinum infection in humans is underestimated, but rates of up to 0.27 case per 100 000 inhabitants have been observed.
Surgery, antibiotherapy, and cryotherapy have been recommended for the treatment of M marinum infections, but none of these treatments has proved to be superior to another.
first isolated from dead fish in a Philadelphia aquarium in 1926 [1] and was identified as a human pathogen in 1951 after isolation from granulomatous skin lesions in patients from Sweden.
MyReefXperience
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Hi everybody! :wavehand:
I suppose the rate of 0.27 case per 100 000 inhabitants means for general population and its not an statistic just with aquarium keepers. Well in fact fishermen are also in that risk
Either way 0,27 case per 100000 inhabitants means 1 case per 370000 inhabitants which are good news.
May you tell me the sorce of this statistic? (I mean the article link)
MyReefXperience
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Yes @Bent
Bent
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TB in people doesn't start out or cause a rash.
The rash your thinking about in human TB is from a reaction from the skin test. TB mainly affects the lungs but it can also affect the spine, kidneys and brain (Pretty rare, I've never seen a case of it).
TB symptoms are:
A cough for 3 weeks or more
Night sweats
Weight loss
Coughing up blood.
Latent TB will show up as a cavitary lesion on a chest X-ray. No symptoms and not contagious. Only active TB is contagious.
But mycobacterium tuberculosis is not the same bug as mycobacterium marinum. Both are actinobacter, but marinum doesn't attack the respiratory system like tuberculosis does.
So yes you can catch mycobacterium marinum from fish, which does show up as a skin lesion and can sometimes cause aquarium granulomas (the skin lesions you are thinking about) three weeks after exposure.
But you won't catch tuberculosis from it.
The rash your thinking about in human TB is from a reaction from the skin test. TB mainly affects the lungs but it can also affect the spine, kidneys and brain (Pretty rare, I've never seen a case of it).
TB symptoms are:
A cough for 3 weeks or more
Night sweats
Weight loss
Coughing up blood.
Latent TB will show up as a cavitary lesion on a chest X-ray. No symptoms and not contagious. Only active TB is contagious.
But mycobacterium tuberculosis is not the same bug as mycobacterium marinum. Both are actinobacter, but marinum doesn't attack the respiratory system like tuberculosis does.
So yes you can catch mycobacterium marinum from fish, which does show up as a skin lesion and can sometimes cause aquarium granulomas (the skin lesions you are thinking about) three weeks after exposure.
But you won't catch tuberculosis from it.
sde1500
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But, can you catch herpes from it? :spin2:
MyReefXperience
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Maybe could be a safety measure the use of UV to avoid mycobacter marinum?
What do you think?
What do you think?
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Bent
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Doubtful.
At least mycobacterium tuberosis takes a UV the size of a tanning booth to kill at work.
Not sure about marinum. They are both actinobacter so my guess would be similar resistance.
MyReefXperience
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Thanks Bent!
But if I'm not wrong it seems not to be a bacteria that we'll have for sure in our tanks. I mean that will only appear if we introduce a fish that carries it. Am I right?
Your comments are very appreciated!
But if I'm not wrong it seems not to be a bacteria that we'll have for sure in our tanks. I mean that will only appear if we introduce a fish that carries it. Am I right?
Your comments are very appreciated!
Bent
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That's correct, it doesn't necessarily have to be an animal though, it can be present on rocks, or any surface with the right combinations of growth requirements.
This was actually on the animal planet show "monsters inside me". A girl got her hand scratched on a freshwater aquarium decoration and caught it. I'm not sure of the episode though.
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