Can you buy scuba gear without being certified?

bignick

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My wife and i want to get certified and want to start diving. Can you buy gear without being certified? I have gone diving before but the deepest was only about 30 feet. My wife and i did that on our honeymoon and she was a little uneasy about breathing underwater. I was hoping that before we got certified i could buy the gear and let her practice swimming underwater in our pool to get use to breathing underwater.

So can you buy gear without being certified?

Thanks,

Nick
 
buying the stuff shouldn't be an issue, but your not supposed to be able to get the tanks filled without a cert card.
 
Oh...Well then i guess she'll have to practice after we get certified.

Can you suggest a good place online to buy gear from?

I am completely new to this.
 
First thing you should do is look around for a good instructor. Speak with this person about what will be needed for your class. Odds are you will need your personal gear, mask, snorkle, fins, booties, and gloves. Everything else will be rented for the class. Out of all your personal gear the only thing I would even consider buying online is a snorkle. Would you buy shoes or gloves online without being able to try them on? Never buy a mask unless you try it on and make sure it makes a good seal on your face. To do this put the mask on your face without using the strap, if you push it on your face air will ascape around the skirt and it should stick to your face. You may have to inhale slightly through your nose and exhale through your mouth. This may be hard at times because you can not breath out through your nose or else the mask will fall off. Most people exhale though the nose you have to relearn breathing. There are several places and several ways you can save a buck or two in scuba, but a mask is not one of them. Im not saying you need to go buy a Scubapro framless mask for $125 or the Atomics Aquatics for just under that price, but if one of those two masks is the only mask that fits you correctly, that is the mask you need to buy. Dont think that you'll get an inexpensive mask now while you learn and upgrade later, buy the mask fits! If you get an ill fitting mask, it will leak on you the entire time your underwater, you will be constintly clearing your mask and not be having much fun. Snorkle" buy the simplest, cheapest snorkle you can. For one thing you wont use it that much except for class, and you going to loose it. Stay away from the super duper over engineered pingpong ball anti flood arrid extra dry with a death lazer built in snorkle. The only option that I think is worth paying extra for is if you get a flexible snorkle that can fold up in thirds so you can stick in in your pocket ~$35. Other gear: do not buy now, get certified, and get some experience Go diving and rent different types of gear. There are down falls to this, usually rental gear is not the best quality gear and people **** in the wetsuits... hopefully the gear is well maintained. If you buy gear now, you don't know what to look for and what options you will like. You might see a great deal on brand X right now and buy it, after you get some experience you might find that the stupid "dry air bleed" is really stupid and a waste of air. You might decide to get a good quality and bullet proof reg set like a Scuba pro Mk2 with a R190 second stage ~$250 and be happy with it untill you try someones balanced reg, and want to upgrade...
In short yeah you can buy gear online, you might save a few bucks, watch out as one popular site with good price is not authorized dealer of many products they sell so you get no manufacturers warantee if you buy there, but if it something that needs to fit you (mask, hood, wetsuit, gloves, booties,fins,BC) go to your local dive shop and have them help fit you.
As for getting your wife cumfortable with breathing under water, buy her a mask and snorkle and just float face down in the pool.
 
Buy mask, fins + snorkel. Other than that - get certified first.

I wouldn't purchase any gear online. I've heard, as mentioned above, tons of issues with warranties / unauthorized dealers. It will cost more at a local shop, sure, but you will get fit properly. There is really no reason for you to buy anything until you're certified and know what you're looking for / need.
 
I absolutely reccomend certification, but theres no scuba police to write you a ticket or check your certification. but it can be a very dangerous sport, and there are a lot of ways to get hurt. Most reputable dive shops will not fill your tanks, rent you equipment, or let you go on dive trips without a certification and a current log book. It is a great sport though, please get certified, most dive shops will work with you.
 
I have bought stuff off of e-bay at some great prices and I have got some good stuff and I have been burned a few times also.
 
Well i understand where all of you are coming from about getting certified but before we get certified i want my wife to get use to it slowly. We have gone snokeling a bunch of times and for some reason she is okay with that i think its just the whole thing about looking up at the surface and breathing that freaks her out.

I also realize what you guys mean about getting fitted for your gear. I will deffinately do that.

Now since i am pretty much a begginer here at scuba can any of you guys reccomend some good vests that won't kill my wallet? We won't be needing wet suits just yet as we will be diving in mostly warm waters for the time being. We have fins and masks and snorkels that we use when we go snorkeling do we need to get ones that are for scuba only or can we keep the ones we have?

Also do you guys know what the average certifying costs and how long the course is? I really don't want to dive in a fresh water lake so if i where to get registered in the winter could they certify me in a pool 100%?
 
problem is that yes you can buy most of your gear without being certified but any reputable dive shop wont sell anything but basics without first seeing your c-card. as for practicing thats what the dive class is for, Supervised Training.

if youve already got your snorkel gear then your almost there all you need is your classes, as for wetsuits you should reconsider that water cools you down much faster than air and even warm waters will make you wish you had some form of an exposure suit.

you will most likely have to get wet in freshwater and there is nothing wrong with it i dive in my local lake all the time your missing half the reason you chose to dive in the first place if you dont experience freshwater along with saltwater, you cant do just pool dives they are confined water dives you will have to have open water dives to finish the course your saving grace is that most dive trainers know someone on the coast that they can refer you to to finish your training but it usually costs you a ton extra unless your instructor is willing to take a trip with you to finish your dives.

a good diver is always learning!

take nothing but time and memories leave nothing behind but
bubbles
 
Damn, I hate fresh water lakes. They are so friggin gross. Lake Michigan is about the only lake i wouldn't mind diving in.
 
Depending on your tolerance to cold, you still might want to look into a 3mm shorty wetsuit for the two of you. Water in the tropics is still colder than your body temperature, and most dives last 45 minutes to an hour. For example, I have a very high coldness tolerance, and on some of the dives on my last vacation to Roatan I went without a wetsuit. After the dive I'd come onto the boat shivering and with goosebumps. Just something to keep in mind.
 
How do you know the lakes are gross if you've never dove them before? They are not like Fiji for sure but...
Seriously, please don't have your wife messing with scuba equipment without training, too many simple little things can go wrong, plus chance of barotrauma is greatest at shallow depths. If you want her to get used to it gradually, then great her instructor can do that, if she is being rushed, then simply find another instructor. If you simply HAVE to have her try it out first, find a friend who is certified and owns their own gear, maybe they can sit on the bottom of the pool together...
 
We talked and we are just gonna get certified and go from there.

As for lakes i have been in quite a few lakes and i just hate muddy bottoms, the smell of most lakes is a little fishy and not too mention they are colder than the ocean.
 
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Not all the lakes are icky. Alot of the training in IL is done in quarries. I happen to go to Haigh Quarry as often as I can. It is not as clear as the tropics but if you are comfotable in a cold dark quarry then the clear blue water of the ocean is truly a vacation. The last trip I took to Haigh I saw tons of fish, including the paddlefish that has eluded me for a year. There are sunken boats, military vehicles and mining equipment to check out as well.There are also bowling balls hanging around for you to play with. (try throwing bowling balls under water, it is pretty cool) Seeing as you are in IL shoot me a PM if you want some references to dive shops, and places that have good deals on gear.
 
Thanks Maxima k2,

I think when we decide to get serious about getting certified i will be sure to shoot you a PM.
 
You do not need to be certified to buy scuba gear, that certification gives you is the ok to fill scuba tanks ....oh yeah the you need to be certified if you want to go under the water with the scuba gear......i am certified there are alot of DONT's that can seriously hurt you........
 
First things first. Support you local dive shop! Get certified. YOur wife will feel much more comfortable when she is in a class with an instructor who has done it thousands of times before. I would get into buying to much more than mask & fins. Unless your'e planning on doing some serious diving. It sucks traveling with all your gear wehter it be the worry of it getting lost or damaged. If you do want good gear, go with an Apeks regulator. I dive a black diamond by seaquest BC, but there are plenty of other ones for a little cheaper. If you are going to dive Lake Michigan you def need a cold water compadable reg, like an Apeks xtx50 or xtx200. Have fun!!!
 
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