Candy canes TIPS AND CARE

[xxmindgamesxx]

I really want a candy cane. It is not that available around here but I need to find a shop that sells it. Before i buy it i want TIPS from people who have had success with candy canes. I dont want any links about it. I want you guys to tell me about its care guide.(im new, only 3 months into this)


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[sde1500]

No offense, but that is so not the way to ask for information. "Don't give me links to guides, I demand you put in work and type it out for me" is a crap way to ask.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

No offense, but that is so not the way to ask for information. "Don't give me links to guides, I demand you put in work and type it out for me" is a crap way to ask.

Well i apologise if it came out wrong but what i meant is that i want information from people on this forum, not articles and suchh.

No offense, but that is so not the way to ask for information. "Don't give me links to guides, I demand you put in work and type it out for me" is a crap way to ask.

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[Reef Bass]

Candy canes are relatively easy, provided one is adept at keeping stony corals. Keeping stony corals means monitoring the alkalinity, calcium and magnesium levels in the tank and often dosing to maintain those levels in their required concentrations. I find they prefer moderate light and flow.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

Candy canes are relatively easy, provided one is adept at keeping stony corals. Keeping stony corals means monitoring the alkalinity, calcium and magnesium levels in the tank and often dosing to maintain those levels in their required concentrations. I find they prefer moderate light and flow.

Is dosing mandatory?

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[carrots]

Not if you're able to maintain proper levels with water changes. Some find it easier to dose.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

Not if you're able to maintain proper levels with water changes. Some find it easier to dose.

Dosing is harder and more expensive for me.

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[Reef Bass]

As carrots said, dosing is only mandatory if water changes can't keep up with replenishing those 3 key items. If the candy canes are your only stony coral, and you're doing regular water changes, then it is likely that testing to make sure you're staying in range is all that is necessary.

Should testing reveal that it is time to start dosing, once you've dialed in the amounts, you can slow the frequency of testing as long as you don't add a bunch of new alk and calcium consuming stony corals.

One can make DIY dosing solutions fairly inexpensively. And likely you're not going to be using them up quickly as compared to an sps dominant tank.

Once one has the solutions, dosing manually doesn't involve additional expense. Just make it part of your tank routines like feeding fish or something.

Having mostly lps and sps, I dose alk, ca and mag automatically via controller controlled pumps. I just keep supplement reservoirs filled and it all happens by itself.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

As carrots said, dosing is only mandatory if water changes can't keep up with replenishing those 3 key items. If the candy canes are your only stony coral, and you're doing regular water changes, then it is likely that testing to make sure you're staying in range is all that is necessary.

Should testing reveal that it is time to start dosing, once you've dialed in the amounts, you can slow the frequency of testing as long as you don't add a bunch of new alk and calcium consuming stony corals.

One can make DIY dosing solutions fairly inexpensively. And likely you're not going to be using them up quickly as compared to an sps dominant tank.

Once one has the solutions, dosing manually doesn't involve additional expense. Just make it part of your tank routines like feeding fish or something.

Having mostly lps and sps, I dose alk, ca and mag automatically via controller controlled pumps. I just keep supplement reservoirs filled and it all happens by itself.

I have polyps and softies in my tank right now. I also have 4 heads of a hammer coral. Will adding a candy cane coral require dosing?

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[Reef Bass]

If your tank is 180g, then probably not. If it's a 5g nano, then maybe. That's where testing comes in. Don't dose if you don't need do. Do dose if your levels of alk, ca and / or mag are dropping despite water changes.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

If your tank is 180g, then probably not. If it's a 5g nano, then maybe. That's where testing comes in. Don't dose if you don't need do. Do dose if your levels of alk, ca and / or mag are dropping despite water changes.

I have an 8 gallon tank. So My best bet is to get testing kits for calc mag and alk...

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[sde1500]

You shouldn't have any corals really without test kits. You'll know you need to start dosing when water changes aren't keeping the levels where they need to be. When weekly water changes start to fail, dosing will come in to help. Once that hammer starts growing, along with the candy cane, you most likely will need to dose. Don't think its harder or more expensive though, not sure why you'd say that. There are online calculators that tell you just how much to dose, DIY recipes for mixing up 2 part, and you can dose by hand easily enough, especially with such a small tank.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

You shouldn't have any corals really without test kits. You'll know you need to start dosing when water changes aren't keeping the levels where they need to be. When weekly water changes start to fail, dosing will come in to help. Once that hammer starts growing, along with the candy cane, you most likely will need to dose. Don't think its harder or more expensive though, not sure why you'd say that. There are online calculators that tell you just how much to dose, DIY recipes for mixing up 2 part, and you can dose by hand easily enough, especially with such a small tank.

I see. So pretty much i need to start dosing cal, mag and alkalinity, alongside their test kits. And i know this question might sound stupid but calc,mag, and alk will be in bottles and i just pour how much i need into the tank? And how often do you do it?

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[sde1500]

I see. So pretty much i need to start dosing cal, mag and alkalinity, alongside their test kits. And i know this question might sound stupid but calc,mag, and alk will be in bottles and i just pour how much i need into the tank? And how often do you do it?

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No. You determine what levels you want to keep your tank at. For instance my target is 8ish dkh, 420 ca and 1350 mg. Then you test to see if that's where your tank is. Test weekly to track depletion, and after water changes to see if you're water changes are keeping up. If they are, good. When testing starts to show that parameters are falling and water changes aren't bringing it up enough, then you dose. And yea the additives will be in bottles that you add to the tank. Can be daily or weekly or whatever you want to keep them in line. Daily you'll have to test water daily to know your daily uptake, to dose just that. More stability that way, probably ideal for such a small tank.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

No. You determine what levels you want to keep your tank at. For instance my target is 8ish dkh, 420 ca and 1350 mg. Then you test to see if that's where your tank is. Test weekly to track depletion, and after water changes to see if you're water changes are keeping up. If they are, good. When testing starts to show that parameters are falling and water changes aren't bringing it up enough, then you dose. And yea the additives will be in bottles that you add to the tank. Can be daily or weekly or whatever you want to keep them in line. Daily you'll have to test water daily to know your daily uptake, to dose just that. More stability that way, probably ideal for such a small tank.

Oh okay. Thank you so much for all the help! Ill be sure to buy all that ASAP.

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[organism]

This is the 3rd or 4th thread over the course of a month or two that you've posted asking questions about keeping LPS where people have told you that you absolutely must have test kits for alkalinity, calcium, and magnesium. Every time you ask "is dosing necessary?" and then inquire if you really need those test kits and how dosing would work. Every. Time. It's like you're waiting for that one person to come along and tell you that you don't need them.

I don't mean to be so blunt, but you need to spend time on the search function here on the site and Google, because the same answers you keep getting to the same questions you keep asking apparently aren't sinking in.

 

[xxmindgamesxx]

This is the 3rd or 4th thread over the course of a month or two that you've posted asking questions about keeping LPS where people have told you that you absolutely must have test kits for alkalinity, calcium, and magnesium. Every time you ask "is dosing necessary?" and then inquire if you really need those test kits and how dosing would work. Every. Time. It's like you're waiting for that one person to come along and tell you that you don't need them.

I don't mean to be so blunt, but you need to spend time on the search function here on the site and Google, because the same answers you keep getting to the same questions you keep asking apparently aren't sinking in.

This is my first thread about this topic. I have had other threads about my hammer. I knew i need the reef test kits ever since, i just didnt realise i needed them now.

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[organism]

This is my first thread about this topic.

Here's you 3 weeks ago being told you needed to learn about alkalinity before keeping LPS. You'll notice you were told many times, and that you listened to 0 of them because here we are again.
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24838937&postcount=10
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24842581&postcount=15
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24842610&postcount=17
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24852682&postcount=25
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24852785&postcount=27
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24854060&postcount=28
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24854285&postcount=30

Here's you saying you don't need to dose because you don't have pods in your tank
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24842585&postcount=16

then saying opening a window affects alkalinity
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24852710&postcount=26

then that you don't need to dose for LPS because you're not keeping LPS and SPS that need trace elements
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=24854075&postcount=29

I knew i need the reef test kits ever since, i just didnt realise i needed them now.

I don't know what that means, but what's clear at this point is that you don't have any interest in educating yourself on what you need to do to keep a reef tank nor listening to people who tell you otherwise. Keeping a reef tank is a big responsibility. You, and only you, have the resonsibility to educate yourself through the tons of articles and information that already exists online, many of which were already posted in your other thread.

 

[ComforablyNumb]

Busted.

 

[sde1500]

Well that was a well documented breakdown. Mindgames,everyone here wants new members and hobbyists to succeed. What no one wants to do is answer the same questions from the same people over and over again. Take Organism's post as an example, and your posts about clown fish for your tank. You worded the same question about getting a second clown multiple different ways, even after multiple people said they wouldn't get two of any clownfish in your tank. Being new is one thing, asking questions until someone gives you an answer you are looking for is entirely different. Go buy test kits, post your results, then you can look into asking questions about corals.