I was at a very well known LFS in NJ yesterday. I came across 2 tanks that made me pause for a moment and make sure I was reading what I saw correctly. There was a tank with about 15 Yellow tangs, that were CAPTIVE BRED, Not Tank Raised but CAPTIVE BRED. I asked the owner and he said they are indeed CAPTIVE BRED. The tank next to it had CAPTIVE BRED Lookdowns. They were about the size of a 50 cents piece. I don't wanna think that the owner was lying to me as he is well known in the hobby and not just in the NJ/NY area, but in all kinds of magazine,books and various other venues. Crossing my fingers that this is true.
Captive Bred Yellow Tangs
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elegance coral
They call me EC
Captive "bred" or captive "raised"? I can't see someone going through all the trouble and expense to breed these fish in captivity. May, highly unlikely, but maybe, someone captured juvenile yellow tangs and grew them out in captivity????????? I think you're right to be suspicious. There's something wrong with this story.
jmaneyapanda
Commencing hatred
Im calling shenanigans on captive bred tangs.
TampaReefer79
Premium Member
And the survey says...EEHHHHHHHHHHHH! Strike 3, I'm sorry. No fast money today!
velvetelvis
Active member
I think Sustainable Aquatics is doing tank-raised tangs (blue, yellow-eye kole, and yellow), but I haven't heard of actual captive-bred ones.
?The store is in North Jersey, and the info I got was that they were BRED in some type of indoor facility in Hawaii. Thats what I pretty much got, although he was very busy at the time I tried to talk to him. Could also just be a scam trying to capatalize on the new trend of selling/buying captive bred livestock. And if you know north NJ then you should know the large store i'm talking about.
glextank
New member
We have a lfs that just got a vendor with tank raised:
tassled file
jordan's tusk
blue hippo tang (pacific)
yellow tang
kole tang
gold spotted rabbitfish
rainfordi goby
white sleeper goby
green chromis
talbots damsel
long spine cardinal
Now granted, they are quite a bit more expensive than WC.
tassled file
jordan's tusk
blue hippo tang (pacific)
yellow tang
kole tang
gold spotted rabbitfish
rainfordi goby
white sleeper goby
green chromis
talbots damsel
long spine cardinal
Now granted, they are quite a bit more expensive than WC.
jmaneyapanda
Commencing hatred
Im quite positive that there is no commercial breeding of tangs currently. There are numerous large institutions which have them spawn, but collection and rearing of the eggs is a hurdle not yet achieved. The captive reared fish are collected post larval, and reared from this point. If this vendor is selling these fish as captive bred, he is fraudulently selling these fish, and is trying to bump profit at your expense. If I am wrong in any of this, someone please tell me who is raising tangs in captivity.
I have extensively searched this topic and believe you are correct. I think it causes a lot of confusion classifying the wild caught post larval fish as tank raised. I like the practice but "tank raised" originally meant they were bred in captivity.
They should call them "Post Larval Grown"
This would clear up lots of confusion.
They should call them "Post Larval Grown"
This would clear up lots of confusion.I'm not saying they are captive Bred, just telling you guys what the LFS says. SO don't shoot the messenger. The store is Absolutely Fish and the lookdowns they have or had were in the tank right next to the yellows and they also said CAPTIVE BRED on the tank. Remember its not that I believe them, this is about them saying they have them.
elegance coral
They call me EC
No one is trying to shoot the messenger. It's not that we doubt what you're saying. We just don't believe what the LFS is saying.
melanotaenia
New member
This is most likely just a problem of diction. Absolutely Fish is a top notch facility, always has been since I have been going there.
And tank raised vs. tank bred? Who really cares when you think about how they will adapt much better in captivity compared to collecting full size specimens that have grown up in the wild eating a myriad of different foods.
And who knows? It may be true; there are things that go on in the aquaculture world beyond the microcosm of this reef board.
And tank raised vs. tank bred? Who really cares when you think about how they will adapt much better in captivity compared to collecting full size specimens that have grown up in the wild eating a myriad of different foods.
And who knows? It may be true; there are things that go on in the aquaculture world beyond the microcosm of this reef board.
I wish you would back me up with that on another site, those guys are trying to eat me alive over the, but I notice I never see them on this site. They must like the comfort of their private little corner.
TampaReefer79
Premium Member
melanotaenia
New member
Right, because this forum is the end all to everything related to anything reef or marine related, both on the collection side and the aquaculture side. 
Information about some of the captive reared fish companies outside or ORA is made available to the public before this board hears about it.
Glassbox Design
Reef Builders
etc.
Shall I go on?
And the who really cares remark was made in reference to the consumer who will purchase these fish, who is really interested in knowing that being in captivity for longer periods of time translates to better adaptive behaviors in the home aquarium, not so much about whether they are captive bred vs. captive raised.
Surely anyone looking for one of these fish would rather buy captive bred, captive raised, whatever, compared to a fish that is caught in the wild at an older age and thus become harder to adapt.
Information about some of the captive reared fish companies outside or ORA is made available to the public before this board hears about it.
Glassbox Design
Reef Builders
etc.
Shall I go on?
And the who really cares remark was made in reference to the consumer who will purchase these fish, who is really interested in knowing that being in captivity for longer periods of time translates to better adaptive behaviors in the home aquarium, not so much about whether they are captive bred vs. captive raised.
Surely anyone looking for one of these fish would rather buy captive bred, captive raised, whatever, compared to a fish that is caught in the wild at an older age and thus become harder to adapt.
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