Carbon dosers: Do you also dose bacteria?
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xenon
Owner of Canada Corals
Ok.
I am a zeovit dealer so I will just grab one off the shelf and see how effective that is.
cugly
Dansreeftank
I use to run full zeovit but then I switch to just running zeobac start and sp with refugium I was able to successfully maintain the balance and keep my levels same as when I was running the reactor..I also know a few friends doing same thing ..
Allmost
New member
that ratio is for phyto plankton and algea uptake, bacteria ... and specifically the Genetically modified bacteria we buy in bottles, are specifically modified to not have that ratio of nutrient uptake. of course, it all depends on how well they are fed to populate ... [C]
M Woodhill
New member
please kindly keep us posted. if zeobak can work effectively without the stones and reactor, that will sure be big news for me. the biggest drawback of zeovit is the commitment problem
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
How will you know if zeobac is effective or not? Suppose if you begin to see cyano or dinos it is not working effectively.
M Woodhill
New member
presumably if xenon's problem solves after addin zeobak dosin, it proves zeobak can work effectively with other supplements rather than the stones and reactor?
personally i'd switch to full zeovit system though. but the system requires too much labor and won't do good for guys who often travel
Allmost
New member
zeovit Stones [Zeoliths] are just a place for bacteria to grow. just like rocks, glass, and all other surfaces in our systems do. Due to high capacity of the Zeoliths .... they can colonize more bacteria than say ... Glass.
the reactor, is just an upflow ... it makes sure you get uniform flow through all the stones, so you use all the stones ... and that is it.
there is no connection between Zeoliths and Zeobac. Zeobac can grow on any surface. even live rock.
Use of the Zeoliths, however, seems to process po4 much better.
about the question of how we can tell Zeobak is working .... we cant to be honest ! problem here is no3 not reducing even though carbon is dosed. This can be due to many reasons, one of which is no bacteria in system .... so IFF thats the reason, then Zeobak can help. but again ... that might not be the reason so ...
Zeovit system with no stones can work, with LESS efficiency.
stones make it more efficient.
reactor makes it even more efficient. [100% of stones used where as passive stones might develop channeling and not 100% of stones get same flow. ]
HTH,
the reactor, is just an upflow ... it makes sure you get uniform flow through all the stones, so you use all the stones ... and that is it.
there is no connection between Zeoliths and Zeobac. Zeobac can grow on any surface. even live rock.
Use of the Zeoliths, however, seems to process po4 much better.
about the question of how we can tell Zeobak is working .... we cant to be honest ! problem here is no3 not reducing even though carbon is dosed. This can be due to many reasons, one of which is no bacteria in system .... so IFF thats the reason, then Zeobak can help. but again ... that might not be the reason so ...
Zeovit system with no stones can work, with LESS efficiency.
stones make it more efficient.
reactor makes it even more efficient. [100% of stones used where as passive stones might develop channeling and not 100% of stones get same flow. ]
HTH,
trueblackpercula
New member
Vodka works well but I found when I was using it after a while it became to aggressive and stuff started to bleach. I should have dosed less and added vinager and suger.
Now I just use prodibio and it seems to be working well and not as aggressive.
Allmost
New member
not really to be honest.
the bacteria is to boost the cycle of new media. [when changed]
I dose now about 2-5 days after media change ... mostly to make sure all strains are given a second chance.
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
I stopped using the full zeo system a few years ago; I was able to achieve the same results with Oyster Feast and Vodka. The challenge intrigue me and I reached the mountain top.
Looking for a new challenge, anything out there?
Looking for a new challenge, anything out there?
I will share a nugget of information that Allmost is probably well aware and other Zeo users are seeking. Undetectable nitrates and phosphates are not the end game. Feed, Feed, and Feed.
trueblackpercula
New member
Honey and milk dosing
ridetheducati
20 and Over Club
Got the t-shirt, does not work. Heading to the store, Doritos and Root Beer are next.
trueblackpercula
New member
Serous here is the link get ready to be blown away
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2204097&page=8&highlight=honey
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2204097&page=8&highlight=honey
epicurus84
New member
Yes i do. Mostly when i add new fish. Just to give the new bioload a hand. I don't think its needed, and i only add one cap full of seachem stability for 200 gallons.
