Carbon in SPS system
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coralreefhq
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Carbon is the greatest thing that ever happened.
It's not pulling out too much for me, even though I run a GFO, Sulfur and ARM reactor, it just takes a little bit of everything.
While leaving some traces enough for the ecosystem in the tank to thrive.
My water is crystal clear and there's less pollutants to worry about.
The water becomes so pure, it's potable!
It's not pulling out too much for me, even though I run a GFO, Sulfur and ARM reactor, it just takes a little bit of everything.
While leaving some traces enough for the ecosystem in the tank to thrive.
My water is crystal clear and there's less pollutants to worry about.
The water becomes so pure, it's potable!
Allmost
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carbnon removes the organics from water, DOCS.
some elements/Ions, such as copper, can attach themselves to organics, and get removed that way.
constant use, will keep your DOC's down.
I will see if I can find the article for u ...
here we go :
http://glassbox-design.com/2010/dissolved-organic-carbon-doc-uv-254-aquarium/
some elements/Ions, such as copper, can attach themselves to organics, and get removed that way.
constant use, will keep your DOC's down.
I will see if I can find the article for u ...
here we go :
http://glassbox-design.com/2010/dissolved-organic-carbon-doc-uv-254-aquarium/
neoalchemist74
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I use it for one week every month. Otherwise my water ends up too clean. Also its been pretty much confirmed that carbon use is the smoking bullet in regards to HILLE.
Allmost
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Sorry, but those are wrong info !
look at the link above I provided, for scientific tests on CARBON ! continues use does not make your water too clean !
carbon and HILLE ? lol that test, was Flawed, why ? they forgot to rinse the ASH off the carbon, so their conclusion, should be ASH causing HILLE ! and not GAC, there is a thread about this on chemistry forums.
JG1
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My issue is this. I've read of people complaining that ROX .8 carbon can cause STN, if used too aggressively. If it can cause STN, it leads me to believe it's stripping the water too clean.
I've also read on RC people saying after they refreshed their carbon, their corals looked like crap.
I've also read on RC people saying after they refreshed their carbon, their corals looked like crap.
Allmost
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any sudden change, can cause STN !
drop in too much po4 remover, into a low nutrition SPS tank, and watch all corals STN !
its up to you of course ... but if you actually were interested and read the article, and saw the charts, it would make sense
I personally do not like the BRS carbon, as they are too aggressive ... I like pellets more, seachem and black diamond and kz and many more ... and its generally adviced to use half the amount needed if running it in a reactor. and change every 2 weeks.
I have not seen a successful SPS tank that does not use carbon.
neoalchemist74 : sorry, I should have provided some links :
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2015903&highlight=carbon
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1891423&highlight=hlle
alot of good info by boomer and Randy.
"I've also read on RC people saying after they refreshed their carbon, their corals looked like crap. "
looked like crap ? like brown ? lol if so, did they rinse the carbon to lower po4 ? if not, they introduced po4 into water, which in turn made the color of their corals fade ! a possibility right ?
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JG1
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But why would carbon do the same thing?
its up to you of course ... but if you actually were interested and read the article, and saw the charts, it would make sense
I personally do not like the BRS carbon, as they are too aggressive ... I like pellets more, seachem and black diamond and kz and many more ... and its generally adviced to use half the amount needed if running it in a reactor. and change every 2 weeks.
What exactly makes BRS carbon too aggressive?
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1425143
Allmost
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No comment about the tank. we each have our own standards ...
if you are trying to run a nutrition rich tank ... then I am not sure if SPS is your thing ...
you can use the search to find Boomer talking about why BRS carbons are different ...
its not like I work for a GAC company and am making you use it ! I was just pointing you towards the data showing it ... I guess somew ppl just like to be guided by the blind ... the best part of this hobby ...
if you are trying to run a nutrition rich tank ... then I am not sure if SPS is your thing ...
you can use the search to find Boomer talking about why BRS carbons are different ...
its not like I work for a GAC company and am making you use it ! I was just pointing you towards the data showing it ... I guess somew ppl just like to be guided by the blind ... the best part of this hobby ...
JG1
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I don't know, he has awesome growth and colors. What's not to like?
I'm trying to run a more nutrient rich system because I don't believe ULNS is the way to go. Anyone who has ever corrected pale corals by feeding more can attest to this.
Why are you being so defensive?
JG1
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ok I see it was wrong of me to help you, my bad
wow, lol
Psyops
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carbon and HILLE ? lol that test, was Flawed, why ? they forgot to rinse the ASH off the carbon, so their conclusion, should be ASH causing HILLE ! and not GAC, there is a thread about this on chemistry forums.[/QUOTE]
+1. Clean your carbon well. I have tangs with no issues. I do use 1/2 of the recommended dose just in case.
+1. Clean your carbon well. I have tangs with no issues. I do use 1/2 of the recommended dose just in case.
JG1
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Just paleness of corals. I took my GFO offline a couple months ago with good results. My corals look better and richer then before. I just had this suspicion that the ROX could be further depleting my water so I took that offline last week. After reading how ROX can lead to RTN it had me a little worried that it could be stripping the water of too much. However, it may be worth trying a less aggressive carbon
JG1
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Thanks for your response.
How long after you took the carbon offline did it take to see improvements?
What kind of carbon were you using prior?
njreefermadness
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I have run carbon 24 X 7 periodically for extended periods. I really have not noticed any difference. Usually changed out once a month or so. Now I just put more GFO in the reactor that was running carbon. Still, not much difference.
Herb
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